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Old 11-09-2007, 08:35 PM
ImInDanger ImInDanger is offline
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Default KK fold flop?

I really dont know why i just called instead of shoving pf but now that i did that id like to know if you would still continue with this hand on the flop PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($10.04)
MP ($13.18)
CO ($9.56)
Button ($8.09)
Hero ($12.60)
BB ($6)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.95</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.65</font>, Hero calls $0.70.

Flop: ($3.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $2</font>, Hero?

Final Pot: $3.35
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:38 PM
ImInDanger ImInDanger is offline
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Default Re: KK fold flop?

oh and no reads...
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: KK fold flop?

reraise pf,
bet / raise flop,

dont be afraid of AA if you have KK on NL5
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:44 PM
ImInDanger ImInDanger is offline
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Default Re: KK fold flop?

[ QUOTE ]
reraise pf,
bet / raise flop,

dont be afraid of AA if you have KK on NL5

[/ QUOTE ] ya obv i shouldf of rr pf but what do i really beat here on the flop? i mean it really looks like AA or better now doesnt it?
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:45 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: KK fold flop?

Well, let's see. We're over 200 BB deep, we're up against a preflop 4-bet, and we don't beat QQ anymore. This basically leaves us hoping that Villain has JJ or AK or was posturing preflop.

If we're including unweighted AK and JJ in Villain's range, then I guess the combos favor us, but I'm still not feeling too good about the situation.

At NL25, I probably call the flop and see if/how much Villain bets on the turn, but I don't think I'd be feeling committed to showdown. My guess is that you should be more inclined to showdown against a NL5 unknown, but I'm not sure.
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