my cards get mucked, standard?

[Lolo K Juik]

Use a card cover. It is your responsibility to protect your cards. While many times the mucked cards can be separated, you don't want to rely on that.

[Taso]

Even with a card protector, if someone slides his cards into yours, they can still be mixed up.

[pfapfap]

Okay, so, even if they can get mixed up, it's much less likely. I may get crushed by a falling piano, but I'm still going to wear a seatbelt.

Unless the cards were easily identifiable from the backs of them, the hand is dead. It's unfortunate, but reality. And in some places, even if you can tell which is which, still a dead hand. This happens by mistake all the time.

Rule #1 is Protect Your Hand. This manifests in many ways, but putting a chip on them to protect them is top among them.

[chillrob]

I think it is standard, but also the BB should be at the least severely warned. If he ever does anything like this again (not just the same night, but any night), he should be punished, up to being banned from the game.

[psandman]

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I think it is standard, but also the BB should be at the least severely warned. If he ever does anything like this again (not just the same night, but any night), he should be punished, up to being banned from the game.

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Are you assuming this was intentional, because I sort of assumed it was an accident.

[chillrob]

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I think it is standard, but also the BB should be at the least severely warned. If he ever does anything like this again (not just the same night, but any night), he should be punished, up to being banned from the game.

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Are you assuming this was intentional, because I sort of assumed it was an accident.

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I was assuming it was not really intentional, but done by a dumbass who is acting recklessly, affecting other people's money. It is pretty tough to much someone else's cards with your own unless you are really being stupid.

I don't think drunk drivers kill people intentionally either, but I still think they should be severely punished (almost to the extent that a murderer is).

Rob

[Sir Folds A Lot]

+1 to all who said to use a card cover, usually a chip. The local B&M dealers will hound you until you start using one because they hate to have to muck someone's cards, but that is the rule, so if you want to run a tight game, or play in a tightly run game, cover your card, or be ready to surrender your cowboys.

[Merton0806]

i was dealing (and playing) at a poker tourney yesterday when 2 players went to the flop and i was gathering all folded hands. i accidently collected one active players cards and he pointed this out to me. i decided the best course of action was for him to whisper me his cards ( he is good player therefore can remember the suit(s) ) and he whispered AdQd ( which bore no relevence to the flop)and in the pile of folded cards AdQd were next to eachother. so i gave him them. everyone seemed happy with the way it was handled but i wasnt sure if it was the "correct" way. ruling plz?

[psandman]

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i was dealing (and playing) at a poker tourney yesterday when 2 players went to the flop and i was gathering all folded hands. i accidently collected one active players cards and he pointed this out to me. i decided the best course of action was for him to whisper me his cards ( he is good player therefore can remember the suit(s) ) and he whispered AdQd ( which bore no relevence to the flop)and in the pile of folded cards AdQd were next to eachother. so i gave him them. everyone seemed happy with the way it was handled but i wasnt sure if it was the "correct" way. ruling plz?

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While I like to see an effort made to not accidently kill hands, there is a problem with your method. Another player may have legitimate concenrs about whether you and the player with the mucked hand are cheating.

imagine you are in the game when this happens and lets suppose you don't all know each other that well. Maybe you don't even like the dealaer. Now you get into a big hand with the a player, the dealer sweeps up his cards, he whispers to the dealer the dealer looks threw the muck and gives the player two cards. they turn out to be a monster (but they are also cards that most people would not have called your preflop raise with) -- might it go though your mind that they were working together?

If you are going to do this sort of thing I at least recommend that the player write down his cards, so that after the hand you can at least eliminate the possibility that the dealer simply picked out the best two from the muck.

[JDesab]

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i was dealing (and playing) at a poker tourney yesterday when 2 players went to the flop and i was gathering all folded hands. i accidently collected one active players cards and he pointed this out to me. i decided the best course of action was for him to whisper me his cards ( he is good player therefore can remember the suit(s) ) and he whispered AdQd ( which bore no relevence to the flop)and in the pile of folded cards AdQd were next to eachother. so i gave him them. everyone seemed happy with the way it was handled but i wasnt sure if it was the "correct" way. ruling plz?

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no it was not.

unfortunately, once the dealer mucks a hand, there is nothing that can be done to retrieve it. at the games i have dealt ... the mucked hand has his preflop bet returned to him. i've never seen it happen on later streets so i don't know what (if any) chips should be returned to the player.