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Old 11-08-2007, 02:58 AM
slimon slimon is offline
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Default $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $77.95
UTG: $42.40
MP: $59.85
Hero (CO): $51.85
BTN: $55.75
SB: $76.85

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.85</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $5.15

Turn: ($19.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $19.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $42.10 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $22.35

River: ($103.95) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Go all in on the flop? Villan is 29/14 over 118 hands. I have no idea what to do on the turn. It's probably a fold because I'm really beating nothing. I'm only beating KQo and AKo. His pot sized bet on the turn tells me I'm beat? Hmmm it's probably better to go all in on the flop because the board is so draw heavy. Won't that make the person fold KQo most likely and that's like the only thing I'm beating really.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:15 AM
themandude themandude is offline
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Default Re: $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

I would probably 3 bet AI on the flop since it's so draw heavy, unless it was vs a utter nit.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:13 AM
Doncabelero Doncabelero is offline
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Default Re: $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

against a LAG player you can delay your push one street, and push it allin on the turn. his oversized raise on the flop makes me thinking he has something like AK of spades or something.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:28 AM
toddxlogan toddxlogan is offline
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Default Re: $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

I'm not positive about this, but I think the flop call is OK and the turn play is awful.

By gut instinct, I call his flop raise here hoping he is [censored] with my c-bet and won't double barrel, and then grimace and fold to his turn bet. The way I see it you are either absolutely slaughtered or something like 60/40 here. But these kinds of spots make me feel like a pretty big bitch, so i'm interested to hear some other opinions on this one.

Has villain c/raised any of your cbets yet? Any of that relevant history?

Todd
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

shove the flop
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:40 AM
Berky Berky is offline
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Default Re: $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

I don't mind the flop play but hate turn. Flop play isn't bad because BB could have something massive like K10ss and his equity drops a whole lot on the turn. I take it to the felt on the turn unless he's a supernit.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:54 AM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

Im definitely getting it in on the flop. Im curious what his AF is considering he is semi loose.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:25 AM
billip62 billip62 is offline
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Default Re: $50NL- Fold two pair on the turn?

I think the flop shove would be ok, but I think you're losing a ton of value against AK or KQ. If it were me, I'd make a donkish 4 bet to like 22 (basically a trap raise to induce a shove from AK or a FD). I like the turn play to be honest, I think you're usually getting this in against a decent king or a suited K of spades.

Profitable situation.
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