Bluff turn three bet

[rzk]

i don't hate it. i'm not sure if you need to bluff the river, since if the villain is on a draw you win anyway when he misses and he gets to see how "spazzy" you are. on the other hand, a river bet might fold some weak made hands (though villain should have c/r with them on the flop so it's hard to say how much we need to discount them).

i also think there's merit in a turn value-check here given that the villain is bluffy. your turn bet will not fold many better hands.

[RudeboyOi]

this hand makes me sick on so many levels
whats the deal with people wanting
to turn sdable hands into bluffs

id give you props for calling down
barring a 7, 9, or T on the river

exactly what hands in your range would you play this way

the answer is zero

you gain more value if he has air
by letting him fire again on the river

any valueraise youd might make should wait for the river

such as if you did actually have a J here
which will be such a small percentt of the time
a J makes up such a small part of your pfr ranging

youre better off waiting to the river to r/c

a hand like 99, TT, QQ, KK, AA, A8, K8
would be better off r/f this river
if you want to maximize value

time to go clean up cause i just puked all over myself

edit: brassmonkeys a friend im encouraged to berate him [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]