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Old 03-17-2006, 10:03 AM
LSUfan1 LSUfan1 is offline
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OP, have you thought of branching out into other games? I can't stand limit holdem but do well at NL and Omaha Hi/Lo (but stink at Omaha Hi and Stud). It's all about finding what fits your attitude/skills/style of play.

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I have actually done well at Omaha H/L in the past, so maybe this would be a good option for me. Not that it means anything, but my highest multi finish was 2nd in a 10 dollar rebuy omaha tourney a few months back.

Maybe I am just playing the wrong game. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Thanks for the input.
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Old 03-17-2006, 02:46 PM
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My IQ is greater than 150, better than one percentile, actually.

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Priceless unintentional humor.

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No, it was intentional - glad you got it.. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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Old 03-18-2006, 01:17 AM
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Here's the deal as I see it. Different people have different experiences with poker. Some people, I think, truly are gifted enough to start playing and in a very short time, almost immediately, start winning consistently. But, that is FAR from the norm, even for geniuses.

This is my experience, and I suspect that it is similar to many others:

- Invited to a home game, don't know what I am doing but somehow end up winning money at the end of the night.

- Think I am God's gift to poker.

- Start playing online.

- Lose my entire BR in two days.

- Tell myself I suck at poker and will never play again.

- Play again the next weekend because I think I am God's gift to poker.

- Lose a lot of money, dig myself into a hole, say I will never play again.

- Don't play for two months.

- Start playing with a group of friends in a weekly home game.

- Think I am God's gift to poker.

- Read a book.

- REALLY think I am God's gift to poker now because I read a book.

- Start to play online again.

- Go broke, again.

- Tell myself I will never play again.

- Buy another book the next week.

- Rebuy online.

Well, at this point you sort of get the idea. Let's fast forward nine months.

- Read my 10th book.

- Think I am God's gift to poker.

- Actually start winning some money.

- Things start to "click"

- Finally realize that I have become a winning player.

- Get over-confident and go busto.

OK, let's fast forward another three months to today.

- Lose the ego.

- Start to enjoy the game and not fret about it.

- Things start to click even more.

- Move beyond books. Don't need them anymore; now most of my learning comes straight from playing and thinking away from the table.

- Now am building a legitimate BR and am winning in the long term.

My point is, your experience is pretty normal. Poker will have you thinking you are brilliant one day, and dumb as a rock the next. But, with some determination, and a willingness to keep learning, you could become a winning player. But expect it to take a while and expect a lot of up and downs.

P.S. only time and a lot of hands will tell if I am truly a long-term winning player or will go busto again. But, I play now more for the enjoyment, and will continue to play even if my BR never gets very large.

P.P.S. About not needing books anymore, I actually do read books every day. I read new ones, and re-read old ones — every day. But what I mean is, there are certain concepts (mostly post-flop) that can't really be taught in books. Either you will get them, or you won't.
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Old 03-18-2006, 05:05 AM
Xellos Xellos is offline
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Don't tilt.

You can pay me by money order, PayPal or via PokerStars for this lesson.
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Old 03-18-2006, 01:20 PM
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i think you need to start playing phil, pokastat, and the other anti-brain boys. there's +ev!!
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Old 03-18-2006, 03:22 PM
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I dont get why anyones discussion intelligence.

I think its just experience and being able to read/memorise and apply information.

COngrats on scoring highly on one test and being labeled as amazingly gifted.

But Poker doesn't give a crap how well you did in a IQ test.

You could have an IQ of 2090394 and poker still wouldn't give a crap, specially if you couldnt remember the last hand played.

You could be a absolute genious, but if you suck at hand reading you wont do better than the little high school drop out on the other side of the table who can hand read.

Poker rewards those who work and study longterm, your books collecting dust may be a key as to why you've lost longterm.

Go read SSH 3x and log 15 000 hands at the micros, Read and post tough hands here, Apply and question new concepts and lines. Debate any thing you find confusing. Oh and leave the IQ number at the door.
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Old 03-19-2006, 07:09 PM
CrdShrk6 CrdShrk6 is offline
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email questions at srazo6@yahoo.com
I have made lots of money at all the types of variations. I would love to help, because it can help my game as well by going back over the basics
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Old 03-19-2006, 10:06 PM
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Don't tilt.

You can pay me by money order, PayPal or via PokerStars for this lesson.

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Gee, if only I had read this before last night....!


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Old 03-20-2006, 03:13 AM
Backstabber Backstabber is offline
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invest in the program "poker tracker" find out where is your weakness first. Do you just call a lot? Do you raise at the wrong time? Do you play some marginal hands in early position?
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Old 03-20-2006, 04:32 AM
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I dont get why anyones discussion intelligence.

I think its just experience and being able to read/memorise and apply information.

COngrats on scoring highly on one test and being labeled as amazingly gifted.

But Poker doesn't give a crap how well you did in a IQ test.

You could have an IQ of 2090394 and poker still wouldn't give a crap, specially if you couldnt remember the last hand played.

You could be a absolute genious, but if you suck at hand reading you wont do better than the little high school drop out on the other side of the table who can hand read.

Poker rewards those who work and study longterm, your books collecting dust may be a key as to why you've lost longterm.

Go read SSH 3x and log 15 000 hands at the micros, Read and post tough hands here, Apply and question new concepts and lines. Debate any thing you find confusing. Oh and leave the IQ number at the door.

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I wish more people would accept this approach. There really are no shortcuts. I'm just on the "15,000 hands at the micros" stage now! Think LONG term (ie YEARS)

Regards,
Ian
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