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11-07-2007, 08:13 PM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
Well, like I said, if anarchosyndicalism could work at all it would have to be structured in such a way that essentially just makes it anarchocapitalism. I.e., sure the workers could own the factors of production, but they would have to own salable shares. Which is just capitalism. Otherwise you run right back into the problems of socialism.
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11-07-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
Anarcho-syndicalists vehemently opposes ownership of production (both state and private) and capitalism, so I don't think the shares thingy would fly by very well for them. But anyway, you don't think it would work at all and I don't think it would work for a group of more than say 30-40 people max. So I don't think we disagree much here.
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11-08-2007, 09:33 PM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
tame,
[ QUOTE ] But anyway, you don't think it would work at all and I don't think it would work for a group of more than say 30-40 people max. So I don't think we disagree much here. [/ QUOTE ] And yet it has worked reasonably well for 50 years in a corporation with up to 75,000 employees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag...ve_Corporation
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11-08-2007, 10:38 PM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
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tame, [ QUOTE ] But anyway, you don't think it would work at all and I don't think it would work for a group of more than say 30-40 people max. So I don't think we disagree much here. [/ QUOTE ] And yet it has worked reasonably well for 50 years in a corporation with up to 75,000 employees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag...ve_Corporation [/ QUOTE ] In no way is a company that receives special tax incentives an example of AC.
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11-09-2007, 03:58 AM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
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[ QUOTE ] tame, [ QUOTE ] But anyway, you don't think it would work at all and I don't think it would work for a group of more than say 30-40 people max. So I don't think we disagree much here. [/ QUOTE ] And yet it has worked reasonably well for 50 years in a corporation with up to 75,000 employees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag...ve_Corporation [/ QUOTE ] In no way is a company that receives special tax incentives an example of AC. [/ QUOTE ] This isn't about AC.
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11-09-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] tame, [ QUOTE ] But anyway, you don't think it would work at all and I don't think it would work for a group of more than say 30-40 people max. So I don't think we disagree much here. [/ QUOTE ] And yet it has worked reasonably well for 50 years in a corporation with up to 75,000 employees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag...ve_Corporation [/ QUOTE ] In no way is a company that receives special tax incentives an example of AC. [/ QUOTE ] This isn't about AC. [/ QUOTE ] Fine, it isnt an example of Anarcho-anything
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11-10-2007, 08:32 AM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] tame, [ QUOTE ] But anyway, you don't think it would work at all and I don't think it would work for a group of more than say 30-40 people max. So I don't think we disagree much here. [/ QUOTE ] And yet it has worked reasonably well for 50 years in a corporation with up to 75,000 employees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag...ve_Corporation [/ QUOTE ] In no way is a company that receives special tax incentives an example of AC. [/ QUOTE ] This isn't about AC. [/ QUOTE ] Fine, it isnt an example of Anarcho-anything [/ QUOTE ] Sure it is. It is a valid example of anarcho-syndicalistic principle, which is a very different ideology from anarcho-capitalism.
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11-09-2007, 04:07 AM
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Re: Chomsky on Anarchism (sidenote; education)
[ QUOTE ]
tame, [ QUOTE ] But anyway, you don't think it would work at all and I don't think it would work for a group of more than say 30-40 people max. So I don't think we disagree much here. [/ QUOTE ] And yet it has worked reasonably well for 50 years in a corporation with up to 75,000 employees: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag...ve_Corporation [/ QUOTE ] Very interesting article. I'll def keep it in mind. My estimate was way off. It is very interesting that this cooperative was founded before Spain became a democracy, but ofcourse in the Basque province. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Nice, anarcho-syndicalism as a corporate structure - and working. Also interesting to see how heavily they are running on democratic process.
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