AQs TP on drawy flop, 3b, 3b shove, or call?

[LOwrestling2001]

Villain is 20/15/5 over 350 hands, typical TAG. Do we 3b, or 3b shove this flop? I called and was going to CRAI on a safe turn, except villain put his stack in first. If we 3b this flop then it may push out draws, right? This seems basic but I'm still unsure for some reason.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($48.50)
Hero ($51.15)
CO ($48.10)
Button ($45)
SB ($51.60)
BB ($53.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($6.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $7.75.

Turn: ($30.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $30.50.

River: ($0) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $91.25

[PJo336]

The stacks are no where deep enuff for a crai on the turn. The pot is 30.25 and hes 30.50 deep. This means you either have to lead out ai on the turn, or 3bet all in on the flop. A crai is not at all an option since you either face a push or a small bet which gives u no fold equity. The decision here has to be made on the flop. I lean towards 3bet pushing this flop.

[thac]

Since you called the flop, I like shoving turn to maximize FE. I dunno if I like flop too much though.

[Berky]

Flop is marginal, on the turn your stacking off evrerytime.

[Bats]

Villain is “typical TAG” and you’re going all-in with TPGK and a backdoor flush draw? Villain doesn’t have JJ+ or AK since he only called preflop, but raising your flop bet says he’s caught a good piece of the flop and pushing with top pair doesn’t seem smart, so the call is good. Good chance he’s got A8, A9, two high spades or maybe suited T7. I may be weak-tight but his turn all-in screams you’re against two pair, a set, or a made straight. I’d fold to his all-in.

[WhiteWolf]

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Since you called the flop, I like shoving turn to maximize FE.

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Your reason doesn't make sense. I really doubt we're folding anything that beats top pair 2nd kicker.

[traz]

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Since you called the flop, I like shoving turn to maximize FE.

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Your reason doesn't make sense. I really doubt we're folding anything that beats top pair 2nd kicker.

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I'm not sure if he actually meant FE, but shoving flop definitely maximizes equity imo. it's better than c/c

[WhiteWolf]

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Since you called the flop, I like shoving turn to maximize FE.

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Your reason doesn't make sense. I really doubt we're folding anything that beats top pair 2nd kicker.

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I'm not sure if he actually meant FE, but shoving flop definitely maximizes equity imo. it's better than c/c

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I agree. I didn't mean to imply that the play was wrong, only that his reason (FE = equity from the chance you fold out a better hand) was wrong.

[Unknown Soldier]

may sound weak, but i think folding the flop is good. you're equity against his range that goes in won't be good

[thac]

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Since you called the flop, I like shoving turn to maximize FE.

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Your reason doesn't make sense. I really doubt we're folding anything that beats top pair 2nd kicker.

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I'm not sure if he actually meant FE, but shoving flop definitely maximizes equity imo. it's better than c/c

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I agree. I didn't mean to imply that the play was wrong, only that his reason (FE = equity from the chance you fold out a better hand) was wrong.

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Yeah I didn't know what to say but it made sense in my head.. like I'd rather shove than c/c.