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Old 11-06-2007, 06:23 PM
The4thFilm The4thFilm is offline
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Default Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.

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The reason SnGPT says it's -EV is because there is a shorter stack. But, it's not really taking into account how close you are to that short stack, and what happens if the short stack gets a walk, or doubles up.

[/ QUOTE ]So is the program essentially garbage?
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:29 PM
The Venetian The Venetian is offline
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Default Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.

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The reason SnGPT says it's -EV is because there is a shorter stack. But, it's not really taking into account how close you are to that short stack, and what happens if the short stack gets a walk, or doubles up.

[/ QUOTE ]So is the program essentially garbage?

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Garbage in, garbage out.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.

COs range should be much wider, thus +ev call.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:48 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.

CO's range is very wide, and +.8 is pretty big. Easy call if he's pushing wide, which he should be. Also, Even if he isn't pushing wide, this might be one of those take a slightly -EV moments, because it's all downhill from here. we're too close in size to the short stack to play the wait it out game imo. if we had 2000 it'd be different.
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Old 11-06-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: AQ hand SNGPT is telling me to fold.

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The reason SnGPT says it's -EV is because there is a shorter stack. But, it's not really taking into account how close you are to that short stack, and what happens if the short stack gets a walk, or doubles up.

[/ QUOTE ]So is the program essentially garbage?

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No, if given the correct inputs, sngpt will guide you correctly in most scenarios. However, ICM is not the only factor to consider. Sng strategy is not independent of future action or chip distribution.

If you double your stack, this would clearly be a fold and ICM would tell you that. What happens in the next few hands would have much less of an affect in that scenario so basing your play purely on ICM would be much more correct.
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