rounders - AA999 v. AAA99

[eljizzle]

Having seen this movie way more times than I'm proud of I'll clear up a few points...

KGB's cards were not shown in the final hand...and "slowing down" of the video to see his cards is pointless as he threw the deck and not his hole cards which I'm pretty sure were still sitting in front of him.

-When you speculate about Teddy's hand in the final scene, you must realize that he actually THOUGHT Mike was on a draw...that is why the ace couldn't have helped him...it didn't help any draws...this is just my opinion obviously.

-Anyone playing properly rolled goes broke on the nines full hand 100% of the time...

- It's funny to me that even with all the ridiculous overbets, string bets, amateur table talk, and all around noob play, no one ever talks about the fact that the entire climax of the movie is flawed. They need to go on this "epic" run to make the 15K they need, but we somehow forget that Worm made a quick 8 grand in like 2 hours at the Chesterfield the morning after being released....oh ya, and apparently neither of them sleep...

even still, its one of my favs...did anyone happen to notice that oceans 13 was written by the rounders guys...and notice what Matt Damon's final lines in that movie were?

[Daddy Warbucks]

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- It's funny to me that even with all the ridiculous overbets, string bets, amateur table talk, and all around noob play, no one ever talks about the fact that the entire climax of the movie is flawed. They need to go on this "epic" run to make the 15K they need, but we somehow forget that Worm made a quick 8 grand in like 2 hours at the Chesterfield the morning after being released....oh ya, and apparently neither of them sleep...


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They get their money taken in the cop game.

[gobboboy]

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- It's funny to me that even with all the ridiculous overbets, string bets, amateur table talk, and all around noob play, no one ever talks about the fact that the entire climax of the movie is flawed. They need to go on this "epic" run to make the 15K they need, but we somehow forget that Worm made a quick 8 grand in like 2 hours at the Chesterfield the morning after being released....oh ya, and apparently neither of them sleep...


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They get their money taken in the cop game.

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He's saying that the 'epic run' they need had already been performed by Worm just a few days/weeks earlier and that it wouldn't be particularly hard for them to make that much in 3 days.

[SuperUberBob]

Teddy had TT on the final hand. If you slow down the end and pause it just after he throw the cards, you can see that they are both tens.

[wake_up]

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Teddy had TT on the final hand. If you slow down the end and pause it just after he throw the cards, you can see that they are both tens.

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Yes it's definately TT. There's one frame where it's clearly visible.

[btmagnetw]

this is a sad thread.

[Gamblor]

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Teddy had TT on the final hand. If you slow down the end and pause it just after he throw the cards, you can see that they are both tens.

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Yes it's definately TT. There's one frame where it's clearly visible.

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level? no there isn't. the point is that it doesn't matter what KGB had, because they want you to think that HU poker is about getting into your opponents heads, etc etc. So as long as Teddy is convinced Mike is on a draw, he'll fire two barrels and when no draws get there he bluff-shoves the river to get the guy who will die if he loses his stack to fold.

why couldn't teddy have like total rags there, or a hand like AT that hollywooded a little? Why wouldn't mike fold a hand like 86s, a hand that might be "on a draw" to a shove on the river?

Also, the last hand is Mike's Johnny Chan moment, "he flops the nut straight and has the discipline to wait him out. He knows he (KGB/Seidel)'s not winning anything with those cards." Funny, the exact same words apply to this hand, and that was the dramatic poetic ending for this movie also.

[warrantofice]

i still like the movie

MIKE: Put a guy like me in a weak game like that, the cards themselves hardly matter. A fish acts strong, he's bluffing, acts meek, he has a hand.

[automat]

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even still, its one of my favs...did anyone happen to notice that oceans 13 was written by the rounders guys...and notice what Matt Damon's final lines in that movie were?

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yes [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]. and i noticed oceans 13 was HORRIBLE.