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Old 11-06-2007, 04:00 PM
v1k v1k is offline
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villian 58/18/0.89
Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $57.12
UTG: $62.08
CO: $31.13
BTN: $44.19
Hero (SB): $63.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, BB calls $2, CO folds

Flop: ($5.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22</font>, BB calls $14

Turn: ($49.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $39 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $32.62 and is All-In

River: ($114.74) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

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how to play the turn?
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: asses on bad flop

This would be fine if your villain was more aggressive. Since his AF is 0.89 (over how many hands?), you should greatly consider slowing down to the flop minraise.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: asses on bad flop

i have only 90 hands.
what would be your line after slowing down?
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:32 PM
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I probably go into WA/WB mode here and call down. The problem is that you are going to be afraid of half of the deck. Any T or 6 makes a 4-straight, and any diamond makes a 3-flush. Still, I want my aces to see a showdown if at all possible. I'd call the flop minraise, check/call the turn, and check/fold the river.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: asses on bad flop

i thought i have to get my money in if im favourit.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:49 PM
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I doubt you are a favorite here, probably a slight dog.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:47 PM
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how can u be a slight dog if its wa/wb??
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:52 PM
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how can u be a slight dog if its wa/wb??

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It can't can it? When I said "I go into WA/WB mode," I meant I try to get to showdown for relatively cheap but I'm not willing to commit. Yes, I understand that what I posted is confusing. Sorry about that.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:01 PM
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np....am i the only one who just gives up on this turn and considers taking quester's conservative line starting on the flop?
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:02 PM
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You don't go into call down mode on a board like this. It is way too drawy. His flop min-raise makes it appear he is on a draw. You are ahead of draws. Sure you could only be 50/50 against a combo draw here, but you already have money invested so winning less than 50% is still +EV.

I'd make a bigger flop raise, I'm thinking ~$26 to $28 range. Turn isn't great, but of the draws holding a 6x hand is least likely IMO. I like the push there. River obviously kills your hand.
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