*** OFFICIAL 11/11/07 NFL EARLY GAME THREAD ***

[kyro]

Could you guys post some lines that are out there? I can't get to any sportsbooks from this computer and I want to try picking games based on the numbers I'm running.

[Rustjive]

PHI @ WAS -3
BUF -3 @ MIA
STL @ NO -11.5
MIN @ GB -6
DEN @ KC Not Posted
CLE @ PIT Not Posted
ATL @ CAR -4.5
JAC @ TEN Not Posted

Off WSEX

[kyro]

Wash and GB lines look right at first glance. I like NO -12 and Car -4.5

[theclock]

I like Carolina over Atlanta.

It'll be 3 losses in a row if Car lose here. They won by a TD earlier in the year at ATL. Can't see why they can't do it again even if it is Delhomme less.

[Rustjive]

I'm in for 2u on NO -12 already, and now that the line is moving in my favor I may add to it. Rams' Sagarin ratings are just unreal. Yeah, yeah, the Saints don't have great ratings either, but 14.90 v 5.23 pure points, 20.69 v 5.22 ELO chess, 17.98 v 5.22 ratings with HFA, not to mention totally different 1st quarter season/2nd quarter season splits for the Saints makes it a no contest.

[Jazzy3113]

I dont think loading up on a game with such a large spread is very wise. St. Louis did not look completely horrendus against the browns two weeks ago. Bulger and Jackson are back right?

I think the Pitt Line is going to tumble down so If you like the browns hop on now. Its dropped 1/2 pt for me already.

[kyro]

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I dont think loading up on a game with such a large spread is very wise. St. Louis did not look completely horrendus against the browns two weeks ago. Bulger and Jackson are back right?

I think the Pitt Line is going to tumble down so If you like the browns hop on now. Its dropped 1/2 pt for me already.

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They were at home, and NO has actually looked like the Saints of yesteryear the past couple of weeks.

[Rustjive]

CLE @ PIT -10

Wouldn't touch this with a 10 foot pole, to be honest.

[aufan91]

Browns +10