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Old 11-05-2007, 03:04 PM
NiTrO NiTrO is offline
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Default TPTK get reraised on flop

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SB ($49.10)
BB ($58.50)
UTG ($9.40)
MP ($62.10)
CO ($115.75)
Hero ($31.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $2.5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $63.6 (All-In)</font>, Hero?

MP is 13/5/inf over +100 hands, CO is a maniac 55/40/5. Preflop I put MP on TT+, but I don't think he bets this flop with less then AK. After is re-raise on flop I put him on AA or JJJ. Any ideas?
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

What are you doing preflop?
Raise it up, you got position + a monster hand.

Raise more on the flop, make it like $7.5-$9.
As played i doubt we are ahead here. He got KJs at least.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

I'd have 3-bet preflop. As played, fold to the re-raise
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

I fold pretty quickly to his 3 bet shove. Especially with his stats and your read, this becomes an even easier fold.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

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I'd have 3-bet preflop. As played, fold to the re-raise

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I didn't reraise preflop because there was also the maniac in the hand and I did't see any worse hand from MP calling my re-raise (When I saw MP raise I insta-put him on a big big hand like AA-KK-QQ). Isn't it correct?
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

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I'd have 3-bet preflop. As played, fold to the re-raise

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I didn't reraise preflop because there was also the maniac in the hand and I did't see any worse hand from MP calling my re-raise (When I saw MP raise I insta-put him on a big big hand like AA-KK-QQ). Isn't it correct?

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If that's your thinking, why do you even CALL preflop? You would be way behind to MP's range.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:20 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

Its incorrect because your hand has value even against a tight range pf, let alone when the maniac is involved. Your best case scenario with 3 betting is that MP folds to your 3 bet, which is definitely possible, and then the maniac comes along.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

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I'd have 3-bet preflop. As played, fold to the re-raise

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I didn't reraise preflop because there was also the maniac in the hand and I did't see any worse hand from MP calling my re-raise (When I saw MP raise I insta-put him on a big big hand like AA-KK-QQ). Isn't it correct?

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If that's your thinking, why do you even CALL preflop? You would be way behind to MP's range.

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Ok, I played this hand bad [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
I'll remember it next time.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

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I didn't reraise preflop because there was also the maniac in the hand and I did't see any worse hand from MP calling my re-raise...

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You say this like getting AKs heads up with position vs a maniac in a bloated pot is a BAD thing?
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: TPTK get reraised on flop

"I don't think he bets this flop with less then AK"

why raise him then?

"After is re-raise on flop I put him on AA or JJJ. Any ideas?"

fold?
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