Adrian Peterson is not Overrated, statistical comparison CTaylor - AP

[AbreuTime]

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That was a lot of work just to pick a nit.

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I like this non-response. Makes me feel right. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Bork]

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A 6.6 average is nuts though, insanely valuable, etc, but a guy who averaged 6.6 ypc with no run over 20 yards would be better.

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What about the actual existing or past backs that average <4.5 yards a carry and don't break long 20+ yard runs... I don't even think it's realistic to average 6.6 ypc and not have a bunch of carries for 20 yards. So, who cares if this mythical guy would be more valuable?

[Jack of Arcades]

It's just using an existing example as a way to show the non-linear value of yards. Probably the greatest example of this phenomenon is Curtis Martin's 2004. 4.6 ypc, long of 25. He had a better DPAR than LaDainian Tomlinson last year (5.2 ypc, long of 85).

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I like this non-response. Makes me feel right.

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Well, I don't disagree. Obviously team factors have a lot to do with the success of players.

[capone0]

So basically your saying DPAR rules all your ways of analysis. I don't know why you must quote FO every time to "prove" your point. Would your rather have 2006 LT or the 2004 CM on your team? I doubt many would pick the 2004 CM over the 2006 LT. I guess FO would pick the opposite though.

[SL__72]

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Mewelde Moore > AP ldo

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Hey, no joking about Mewelde. I literally stood up and cheered in my living room when he I saw they had him back returning punts.

I really wish they could work him into the game plan more often.

[THAY3R]

Even JP Losman is better than AP at rushing the ball!

[Jack of Arcades]

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So basically your saying DPAR rules all your ways of analysis. I don't know why you must quote FO every time to "prove" your point. Would your rather have 2006 LT or the 2004 CM on your team? I doubt many would pick the 2004 CM over the 2006 LT. I guess FO would pick the opposite though.

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Well, the two years were essentially the same (54/52 DPAR) but it's just one way to measure it.

Once again, I'm not saying anything about the value of LT or Curtis Martin, just the value of the numbers. You really have to remove the names from the numbers and your perception of their skill simply because so much of this is based on context.

[rhythmisnothing]

He's got over 1000 rushing yards in his first 8 NFL games..never been done before
He's got 2 games for more than 200 rushing yards as a rookie...never been done before

His starting QB is averaging about a 48 QB rating. Yes, a 48! He completed something rediculous like 9 throws against the bears. You simply CANNOT win a football game when your starting QB has only 9 completions.

[Assani Fisher]

Center Matt Birk, left guard Steve Hutchinson, and LT Bryant McKinnie


Adrian Peterson is averaging 6.5 yards per carry on carries behind the left side of his OLine and 7.3 yards per carry on carries to the left sideline. This compares to 5.4 yards on carries behind the right side of his OLine, but only 4.1 yards per carry to the right sideline.




ADP is amazing, but thats a great side of the line, and hes clearly not doing as well on the other side. I don't say any of this to take away from ADP; Rather I say it to give credit to that line.

101,360 and counting

[kyleb]

JoA's point can be made more clear by simply saying that the median number of ypc is a better stat than the mean. I have a feeling this is true in baseball as well, but I haven't yet done the math on this.