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Old 11-04-2007, 09:32 PM
solinar solinar is offline
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Default Need some help with turned TPTK + nut flush draw

This is villians 3rd hand since sitting so no reads.

This was the last hand of a session for me, I was tired, and I have to admit, I didnt really put villian on a range while playing the hand. On the flop I figured overs + flush draw was good enough for a call. On the turn, adding in TPTK probably doesnt change too much, other than giving me outs to counterfeit his likely 2pair on the river.

Id like opinions on both the flop call and the turn decision.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($20.10)
CO ($9.50)
Button ($1.45)
SB ($9.25)
BB ($9)
Hero ($27.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $0.35, Button calls $0.35, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1.45) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.45</font>, Hero calls $1.45, CO folds, Button folds.

Turn: ($4.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ...
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:14 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: Need some help with turned TPTK + nut flush draw

Another one of those hands where all I had to do was read title....SHOVE.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:31 PM
Hebel Hebel is offline
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Default Re: Need some help with turned TPTK + nut flush draw

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease raise that flop, you have a monster hand against any reasonable range

as played shove the turn all day long
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Need some help with turned TPTK + nut flush draw

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pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease raise that flop, you have a monster hand against any reasonable range

as played shove the turn all day long

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true story. raise that flop, if you get called and go to the turn, it would be extremely difficult for any villain to give you credit for a Kx hand. I suggest betting around 2/3 pot on the turn. A bet capable of inducing a c/r bluff as well as getting a call out of OPs on that flop. If he decided to lead the turn after we raise his flop bet, we have ourselves in a really nice spot, with the nut redraw if necessary.
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:51 PM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Re: Need some help with turned TPTK + nut flush draw

I'll say it too, raise flop with the intention of getting it in.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:20 PM
solinar solinar is offline
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Default Re: Need some help with turned TPTK + nut flush draw

Good deal. On the flop I figured he had a big enough stack I could call and still get it all in if a spade hit.

On the turn, I figured calling and leaving him 2.50 or so behind to the river was pointless, so I shoved.

River blanked and villian showed up with a set of 7s, but I feel ok with how I played it.

Thanks for the checkup.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Need some help with turned TPTK + nut flush draw

yeah, with overcards and the nfd, we need to be raising this flop to get some fold equity as well. As played, shove turn. Even if he has a set, we have outs.
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