Stars 12 180 turbo...turn a flush and crappy river card..easy fold?

[ssnyc]

very early on so no real reads...I led out on flop to price my draw and it worked...does anyone play this differently? Is the turn bet enough? On the river I figured if he had the stones to bet into to players with that board he had me beat...

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
8 players

UTG: t1320
UTG+1: t1710
MP1: t1290
MP2: t1770
CO: t1280
Button: t1470
SB: t1380
Hero: t3280

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t20
UTG+1 folds
MP1 calls t20
MP2 calls t20
CO folds
Button calls t20
SB calls t10
Hero checks.

Flop: ([t120) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks
Hero bets t80
3 folds
Button calls t80
SB calls t80

Turn: (t360) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks
Hero bets t200
Button calls t200
SB calls t200

River: (t960) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t600
Hero grumbles and instafolds
Button folds
Uncalled bets: t600 returned to SB

Final pot: t960

[sapsuckah]

I'd make it close to 300 on the turn but this looks pretty standard in general.

Anybody c/r this flop?

[ssnyc]

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I'd make it close to 300 on the turn but this looks pretty standard in general.

Anybody c/r this flop?

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Sap turn bet was looking to induce a bluff and also to disguise my hand a bit...don't love check raising the flop cause my hand is pretty bad if called and they call light in these...also why build a big pot OOP with a hand that has some value...

[sapsuckah]

I was considering the c/r in terms of costing you less overall to know if you're ahead (or at least, not crushed). I agree that if you're called you're behind, but it usually would keep you from spending more on later streets to find out the same thing.

Also, I don't know if I like your reasoning on the small turn bet for two reasons. First, I'm generally not all that big on feeling like I need to disguise my hand in the 12/180s. I'd rather bet bigger to make sure I'm pricing out someone with an As or Ks. Second, I think that betting smaller to induce a bluff isn't gonna work too often vs the typical 12/180 donk, especially with three people in the pot and a very dangerous board. Would a non-Q, non-flush hand bluff-raise this board? I don't see it happening.

Regardless, I'm not sure the flop c/r is the best line, but I was just putting it out there for comment. I don't do it enough myself and I want to better understand the right spots to pull it off.

Matt

Edit: Oh, and yeah -- I reluctantly muck the river.

[ssnyc]

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I was considering the c/r in terms of costing you less overall to know if you're ahead (or at least, not crushed). I agree that if you're called you're behind, but it usually would keep you from spending more on later streets to find out the same thing.

Also, I don't know if I like your reasoning on the small turn bet for two reasons. First, I'm generally not all that big on feeling like I need to disguise my hand in the 12/180s. I'd rather bet bigger to make sure I'm pricing out someone with an As or Ks. Second, I think that betting smaller to induce a bluff isn't gonna work too often vs the typical 12/180 donk, especially with three people in the pot and a very dangerous board. Would a non-Q, non-flush hand bluff-raise this board? I don't see it happening.

Regardless, I'm not sure the flop c/r is the best line, but I was just putting it out there for comment. I don't do it enough myself and I want to better understand the right spots to pull it off.

Matt

Edit: Oh, and yeah -- I reluctantly muck the river.

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Matt,

agree on the turn bet...every time I forget to stop making fancy moves in these I regret it!!! River I didn't even think about it...big sigh and fold and move on...villan was in SB so who knows what he had...could've had me dead all along!