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Old 11-05-2007, 02:25 AM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: Steve Badger\'s advice

Actually, 15-20% was an understatement, because I figured that's the minimum that good players would play from EP. I play more like 22% or 23%. If you want a list of some hands I've played UTG in a FR game, here you go:

KK63, AKQ9, AKQT, TT86, T986, KKQ5, 9885, KQJT, KJT9.

Those are all hands I've played recently from UTG. The 9885 might be a little sketchy, and the AKQ9 would probably need suits to be playable, but in general all those kind of hands would be OK as would some low runs like 7654.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:42 AM
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I don't really understand why this discussion is still going. Obviously there are people on this forum that have cultivated winning styles over hundreds of thousands of hands. It is very obvious to myself and probably most of these other players that Badger's style is at best a recommendation for beginning PLO players who have very little concept of the game. Anyone who adopted this strategy in normal cash games would be giving up as much as 5-6BB/100 hands playing this way assuming they play well postflop.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:08 AM
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I don't really understand why this discussion is still going. Obviously there are people on this forum that have cultivated winning styles over hundreds of thousands of hands. It is very obvious to myself and probably most of these other players that Badger's style is at best a recommendation for beginning PLO players who have very little concept of the game. Anyone who adopted this strategy in normal cash games would be giving up as much as 5-6BB/100 hands playing this way assuming they play well postflop.

[/ QUOTE ] Would everyone agree that a) position is the most important thing in PLO but a smidgen less than what Badger says and b) cards matter just a smidgen more than Badger says?
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: Steve Badger\'s advice

Gimme this cracker HU or on a 30k sample who will do best...
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:20 AM
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Gimme this cracker HU

[/ QUOTE ] I do not even play heads up!!!
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:30 AM
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Gimme this cracker HU

[/ QUOTE ] I do not even play heads up!!!

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I think he's referring to Badger. I could be wrong but he plays slightly higher stakes than you, so probably not gunning for you.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:28 AM
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I guarantee you 100% that I could play you or anyone else who advocates that particular style of play out of position every hand and still be a signifigant winner.

Position is very important in PLO but to make it the be all and end all of your playing style will get you breaking even to the rake very very quickly.

Play real money for 40k hands and see how well you do. I'm guessing at best, unless you run really hot, you'll make about 2BB/100 at any level 0.50/1 or higher. I'm not going to add anything more to this useless thread.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:32 AM
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I guarantee you 100% that I could play you or anyone else who advocates that particular style of play out of position every hand and still be a signifigant winner.

Position is very important in PLO but to make it the be all and end all of your playing style will get you breaking even to the rake very very quickly.

Play real money for 40k hands and see how well you do. I'm guessing at best, unless you run really hot, you'll make about 2BB/100 at any level 0.50/1 or higher. I'm not going to add anything more to this useless thread.

[/ QUOTE ] As the moderator once suggested in one of his replies, this is meant to be a discussion of various styles, not really a competition of various posters. But having you said what you have said, I think IT IS ON! (but let us start play money) I know it will be impossible to bluff and we will meet idiots who turn this into lotto but I now REALLY want to try at you 10-handed, PartyPoker - search for stubbornman
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:48 AM
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Default Re: Steve Badger\'s advice

Tell you what. Deposit like $200 or whatever on stars, play micros until you have like 4K, then I will play you HU at 0.50/1 or 1/2 as long as you want. Unless you want to pay me $200 an hour for coaching I am not ever gonna play play money for any reason.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:14 AM
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Unless you want to pay me $200 an hour for coaching I am not ever gonna play play money for any reason.

[/ QUOTE ] Do you coach anyone registered on 2+2 for $200/hr?
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