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Old 11-03-2007, 04:32 AM
deepsquat deepsquat is offline
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Default Re: Shove/Fold and why

please bet the turn every time.

Call the river.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: Shove/Fold and why

I like the turn check against a lot players. Getting c/red here sucks because people are bad enough to do it with hands that you're actually beating as well as sets/weird 2 pair etc. If he was a calling station I don't mind a bet on the turn.

The river seems like a no-brainer call to me, you never get called by worse if you shove and you've underrepped your hand so he could be value betting worse.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Shove/Fold and why

Easy call if you check turn. He's folding Qx hands to a push, and QJ/set/two pair stack you, so no point.

Think the flop/turn play is more interesting. Flop bet is a bit too small, but OK. Don't hate the turn check behind for pot control with a 1pair WA/WB type hand. I think betting turn runs into the same problems as a river push in the first scenario.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Shove/Fold and why

wtf just call so easy...

shove or fold my ass.
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