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Old 11-04-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

i think its a call, no one stop n go's when they have it.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: Ugh, tough fold but I think it\'s right. Thoughts?

SO we think he's just overplaying an overpair or maybe semi-bluffing? Not saying I disagree just trying to cover all the bases
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:49 AM
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Also I should mention that having the 6 and 4 of spades on the board should be somewhat relevant as it limits the possible lower flush holdings he could have, 57s is about it and he might not even raise that from UTG.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:53 AM
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SO we think he's just overplaying an overpair or maybe semi-bluffing? Not saying I disagree just trying to cover all the bases

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not sure what id put you on here if you took this line vs me, but i think id shove AQ+ here for sure.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:55 AM
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Really? This is the line I almost always make with a middling flush, I don't want them to check behind and I want to get value. But yeah if he thinks my line is really weird then he might be shoving lighter I suppose.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:01 AM
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Really? This is the line I almost always make with a middling flush, I don't want them to check behind and I want to get value. But yeah if he thinks my line is really weird then he might be shoving lighter I suppose.

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i guess i dont flat the flop with a mediocre fd very often
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:03 AM
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touche, what do you like on flop instead, c/f, lead, or c/r? I'm not completely sure why I c/c since villain is a solid player and he nearly bet the pot on the flop.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:04 AM
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i wouldn't draw to it if you think the guy won't pay you with worse when you hit.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:05 AM
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i think b/3b is good here, or just c/r. If his cbetting range is really that small here than i guess c/c is ok, but i think most regs are firing a decent range on a Broadway xx flop.

b/3d is only good if its part of your game FWIW.
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Old 11-06-2007, 02:23 AM
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Its marginal dude. right on the border. what say dump s/c pf 00P?

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