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Old 11-03-2007, 11:05 PM
Kukla Kukla is offline
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Default Re: Get your n00b out, uNL--Volume 2

Hero raise 4bb from MP, Villain(for example 20/15/2) 3bet from Btn to 12bb, we can't say exactly what his range, but we assume that it is above 66+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+,KQo. And we know that he is agressive postflop, so he may bet/3bet FD+overs e.t.c.

1.Can i call his 3bet with one of these hands:
a)J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
b)6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
c)2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
d)9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

2.How change our calling range if:
a)he 3bet us flat
b)we had position on him
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:42 PM
mojed mojed is offline
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Default Re: Get your n00b out, uNL--Volume 2

[ QUOTE ]
Hero raise 4bb from MP, Villain(for example 20/15/2) 3bet from Btn to 12bb, we can't say exactly what his range, but we assume that it is above 66+,AJs+,KQs,AJo+,KQo. And we know that he is agressive postflop, so he may bet/3bet FD+overs e.t.c.

1.Can i call his 3bet with one of these hands:
a)J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
b)6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
c)2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
d)9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

2.How change our calling range if:
a)he 3bet us flat
b)we had position on him

[/ QUOTE ]

Depends hugely on stack sizes.

Assuming 100BB stacks, I'm folding OOP all day long (all 4 hands) and cutting down the number of marginal hands I raise with in MP while the button has such a wide 3-bet range. Then I'm taking him to value town with AK, AQ and my high PPs.
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Old 11-03-2007, 11:57 PM
Kukla Kukla is offline
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Default Re: Get your n00b out, uNL--Volume 2

yes, stacks is 100bb. But how size of his 3bet and our position influences to my calling range?



One more questions:
Villain(Button) is unknow just sit down on this table. Stacks are 100b. Hero raise xx 4bb from MP,CO call, Button reraise 16bb. With what range of hands we may call here?
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:24 AM
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People may disagree with me, but I don't think position makes a huge difference here with 100BB stacks and a 3-bet to 12BB, the reason being that a lot of the money has gone in preflop so there's less maneuvering postflop. This all changes if the villain has some exploitable tendencies after the flop, such as bet sizing his missed hands differently to made hands etc.

The size of the 3-bet obviously influences our implied odds, I'm calling a min 3-bet with 22. Less sure about the suited connectors and one gappers.

Also, because we have the luxury of such a well defined 3-bet range, if we also have a well defined range of how the villain handles a 4 bet, you may find 4 betting light exploits this villain's 3 bet range. The 3-bet range you described is 8.9% of all hands. Suppose the villain will fold everything but QQ+ and AK to a 4-bet, which is 2.6% of all hands. This means the villain folds 70.8% of his 3-bet hands to a 4 bet. So if we make it 36BB total, we are risking 32BB to win 17.5BB (12 + 4 + 1.5). 70.8% of the time we win 17.5BB (0.708*17.5 = 12.39BB), and 29.2% of the time we lose 32BB (0.292*-32 = -9.344BB). In total a light 4-bet wins us about 3BB on average. Many people who 3-bet fairly light as you described don't defend 4 bets with enough of their range and are thus exploitable. So chuck in a 4 bet occasionally, while mostly folding with your SCs. It'll help balance your 4-bets for value too.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Get your n00b out, uNL--Volume 2

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