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Old 11-03-2007, 01:01 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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I have asked FT/Mike Haven to contact me as well. I feel if they are going to accept information from sites such as FTP, then they should have dialouge with their accused posters as well. Do you not agree? Does FTP run a monopoly?

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Absolutely agree that they should have dialogue with you.
It seems possible that FT is going to tell Mike not to disclose very much of what they tell him because they don't want to reveal too much about their super-secret bot-detection abilities. So they will likely insist that he keep you in the dark as well.

but instead of telling Mike more about what you did so that he can tell us I do think that FT owes you a lot more of an explanation and a dialogue than what they have given you.
WAY WAY WAY more.

If FT determined you were a bot due to your betting patterns then that strikes me as ultra-weird because I don't think such a thing is possible really.
So for them to even SAY that they made this determination via your betting-patterns leaves me questioning their detection procedures.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:03 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Hey everyone - Who datamines and collects the HH's of the games at FT? and specifically the games that pokergirlz plays in (not sure of the exact spelling of her online handle)?

Can we collect some of these HH's and see if there is anything unusual or eye-catching in the stats?
Who has played with this player and who has data on her?
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:08 AM
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Hey everyone - Who datamines and collects the HH's of the games at FT? and specifically the games that pokergirlz plays in (not sure of the exact spelling of her online handle)?

Can we collect some of these HH's and see if there is anything unusual or eye-catching in the stats?
Who has played with this player and who has data on her?

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I know gehrig datamines those games (or used to) so he should have plenty of hands.

A question for MrGatorade...did you believe pokergirl z was botting? If so, why didn't you list her on your site?
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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Hey everyone - Who datamines and collects the HH's of the games at FT? and specifically the games that pokergirlz plays in (not sure of the exact spelling of her online handle)?

Can we collect some of these HH's and see if there is anything unusual or eye-catching in the stats?
Who has played with this player and who has data on her?

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I know gehrig datamines those games (or used to) so he should have plenty of hands.

A question for MrGatorade...did you believe pokergirl z was botting? If so, why didn't you list her on your site?

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I am fully aware of the OP and the situation at hand here and wish to not comment further in this matter.

-Crazy Mike
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

Oh Mike,

please do respond. I need to hear what you have to say about this.
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Old 11-03-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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Hey everyone - Who datamines and collects the HH's of the games at FT? and specifically the games that pokergirlz plays in (not sure of the exact spelling of her online handle)?

Can we collect some of these HH's and see if there is anything unusual or eye-catching in the stats?
Who has played with this player and who has data on her?

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I know gehrig datamines those games (or used to) so he should have plenty of hands.

A question for MrGatorade...did you believe pokergirl z was botting? If so, why didn't you list her on your site?

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I am fully aware of the OP and the situation at hand here and wish to not comment further in this matter.

-Crazy Mike

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Its REALLY interesting that the person who finds the most bots, even those who arent bots, earlier said of sal:

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Whatever investigation that is going on with her was not initiated by me nor reported by me. Does that answer your question? I only care about bots not people having mulitple accounts. If she is or has used a bot in the past or present then I care.

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So Crazy Mike said she wasnt a bot, but then we have FTP locking and then confiscating the account for using botting software (im assuming thats what they mean, their wording is a little vague IIRC).

Ill repeat it:

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I am fully aware of the OP and the situation at hand here and wish to not comment further in this matter.

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Something does not sit right here - i smell conspiracy but i might be wrong. This wouldnt be the first case where Mike has wrongly accused someone of botting using his 100% guaranteed method (which has failed a few times) and that person had his account reinstated if memory serves me.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:33 AM
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Hey everyone - Who datamines and collects the HH's of the games at FT? and specifically the games that pokergirlz plays in (not sure of the exact spelling of her online handle)?

I AGREE WITH YOU BOB, please anybody tht has info on me. Im serious. I this can prove my innocene or lack of it , please let go for it.

Can we collect some of these HH's and see if there is anything unusual or eye-catching in the stats?
Who has played with this player and who has data on her?

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Old 11-03-2007, 01:41 AM
Mn-Holdem Mn-Holdem is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

Does anyone not think its strange for FTPDoug to come here talking about how when people don't get a hold of them such as credit card processors and possible colluders that investigations take longer all the while implying that this is the reason this took so long without communication. Then all of a sudden its case closed shes a bot no explanation except to some irrelevant mod of a message board who was not affected in any way by the situation.

I cannot fathom how a serious money generating business like this can function doing things like this?? Is this the twilight zone or am I dreaming??
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:41 AM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

sillysal - please spell out exactly your online-poker name so that perhaps someone can help with this. pokergirlz or poker_girl_z or whatever it is exactly.

somebody mentioned that perhaps gehrig datamines these games.
Not everyone surfs this forum and he might have no awareness at all about this.
PM gehrig and ask if he can help perhaps?

Not sure if it would be appropriate to post a request in the appropriate forum asking for HH's played against you. I think you play high-stakes limit but mabe it's NL. Anyway, that might be something to think about as well.
If you play high stakes limit then perhaps PM a moderator there such as BicycleKick and see if he thinks it's worth cross-posting your request to that forum.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

So, FTP is the new UB?
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