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Old 11-01-2007, 04:48 PM
Shattered Shattered is offline
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Default Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

Villain is a 35/15/8.5 (!!) over 30 hands and I'd seen him do some rather stupid things.

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SB: $21.95
BB: $19.95
UTG: $36.20
Hero (MP): $21.25
CO: $18.70
BTN: $27.60

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $1, BB folds, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero bets $2.50</font>, SB calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $12</font>, Hero?

I would obviously fold turn against a more reasonable opponent, but do I get it all in against this one?
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

24-hour bump
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

I would probably still fold seeing as how small a sample 30 hands is. Im not saying he is going to end up being a nit, but Im not sure stats alone here dictate a call. What were those stupid things you have seen him do? Have you seen him do stuff similar to this before? If you have then it obviously changes everything.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

How are you acting before the sb on flop and turn?
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

as played i probably fold here. rarely have i ever seen that min raise happen with a hand worse than an overpair.

however, i'd say bet 3 on the flop, bet 9 on the turn, and then your decision is a hell of a lot easier because if my quick math is correct a min raise on the turn would be all in.
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Old 11-02-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

Urgh same thing happened to me earlier today, 337 board, I Cbet ~1.5 into 1.5 pot, with jacks, turn is a 9, I bet pot donk reraises and I shove, villain has 99.

I dont think you see this line much with villain showing down worse than a set/2pr, unless they are lagro to the max.
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

I stick it in here. Overpair = nuts.
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

this is a clear fold and it's not even close. note that villain's AF is 8.5 and he called the flop. likely he has a made hand b/c most decent LAG's will generally raise vulnerable hands a lot on the flop and when one calls the flop I'm much more inclined to believe their hand was already made. your line here is fine except maybe bet $5 on the turn as it will get the same effect but cheaper.
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Old 11-03-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: Overpair on monotone flop, 25 NL

Why do we want to bet $5 on the turn? Yes its cheaper, but its cheaper for villain too. I think the largest part of villains range on the flop is a big diamond so wouldnt we want to bet larger, not smaller?
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