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Old 11-02-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

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Haha - nice mirror image post of mine mattie [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Haha yes, I thought I would look smart by doing it. (kidding)
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

Oh, so now you're calling me dumb? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Haha [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

It's not as if there is some rule that you have to c-bet every flop. If it comes KQx, Axx you can just check/fold. On a Kxx/Qxx board you can check-call OOP, or check behind in position depending on your opponent.
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:12 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

yeah I forgot to mention that. Obv on really disgusting flops you can c/f.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

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It's not as if there is some rule that you have to c-bet every flop. If it comes KQx, Axx you can just check/fold. On a Kxx/Qxx board you can check-call OOP, or check behind in position depending on your opponent.

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I know you don't have to C-bet , but not cbetting because you will be (too) short sucks.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

For me it can go either way with this stack, any more and I likely raise, any less and I shove.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

I open shove w/ 15 and under bbs. Makes it easy when youre playing alot of tables + you will get called by donks w/ 55-1010 looking to pick off your "ak"
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

I think the shove is fine.I don't think it's good to raise and fold on the flop losing 25% of your stack.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

If you want some easy post flop from donks and don't wanna push it you could aswell raise 500 and allin any flop. I wonder vers , after raising 300 and OOP how can you read when overcard shows on board whether your caller opp has that K or Q or A or not.

Push here is unexploitable by any range and i like pushing since you can't really play postflop here otherwise then going allin.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: $27 - Openshove JJ with 13.7BB

I would never shove here. People will peel with 76s and stack off with tp a lot more than they will call shove with stupid junk.
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