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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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  #2231  
Old 11-02-2007, 04:28 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: This is probably ridiculous

5 handed
effective stacks $88

3 folds
Hero (button) raises to $4 with AA
SB folds
BB calls (31/19/3.2)

Flop 433 no flush
BB bets $4 (donk bet % is 27)
Hero calls

Turn 5 (completes rainbow)
BB bets $8
Hero raises pot size
BB pushes
Hero calls
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: This is probably ridiculous

[ QUOTE ]
5 handed
effective stacks $88

3 folds
Hero (button) raises to $4 with AA
SB folds
BB calls (31/19/3.2)

Flop 433 no flush
BB bets $4 (donk bet % is 27)
Hero calls

Turn 5 (completes rainbow)
BB bets $8
Hero raises pot size
BB pushes
Hero calls

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65, 64, 54, A4, A5, are all losing pretty badly now, as is any PP under 77-KK. Agg of 3.2 would make me guess he'd rather c/r trips than donk them. So much is jamming the turn, especially with your flop call.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:56 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: This is probably ridiculous

Which way is more profitable, this or flop raise?
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:06 PM
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Which way is more profitable, this or flop raise?

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At first I though "raise the flop, tard" but that just makes all those hands you're beating shut down. Sometimes pure donk-bluffs catch the turn too. A call has got to be better, right? Someone who doesn't suck at cash help plz.
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:22 PM
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5 handed
effective stacks $100

3 folds
Hero (button) raises to $4 with TT
SB raises to $14 (25/14, 3bets 8% from the blinds)
BB folds
Hero calls

Flop 692 no flush
Villain checks (cbets 71%, aggression 3.1)
Hero bets $20
Villain raises to $65
Hero is all in


Please comment on all Hero's moves
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Old 11-02-2007, 05:38 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
5 handed
effective stacks $100

3 folds
Hero (button) raises to $4 with TT
SB raises to $14 (25/14, 3bets 8% from the blinds)
BB folds
Hero calls

Flop 692 no flush
Villain checks (cbets 71%, aggression 3.1)
Hero bets $20
Villain raises to $65
Hero is all in


Please comment on all Hero's moves


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Looks fine. Checking behind is also and fine, possibly better depending on how aggro villain is. This is going to be two overs like AK/AQ, or maybe 78 a lot. AA/KK at times if villain is tricky but I think villains range is weighted more towards a couple overcards. The more aggro villain is the more I like a flop bet to induce. The flop call is mandatory since the only real value in betting is to induce a bluff from villain.
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Old 11-02-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default misplayed every street?

should i just fold this pf? (sb was tight, bb is a 2+2er)
no reads on the rest of the table
second barrel a bad idea?(or just not big enuff?)
bet the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($100)
MP ($147.60)
CO ($93.35)
Button ($90.40)
SB ($140.60)
BB ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($13.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP calls $8, CO folds.

Turn: ($29.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, MP calls $12.

River: ($53.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: $53.50
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:21 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
should i just fold this pf? (sb was tight, bb is a 2+2er)
no reads on the rest of the table
second barrel a bad idea?(or just not big enuff?)
bet the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($100)
MP ($147.60)
CO ($93.35)
Button ($90.40)
SB ($140.60)
BB ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($13.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP calls $8, CO folds.

Turn: ($29.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, MP calls $12.

River: ($53.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: $53.50

[/ QUOTE ]

You should probably fold preflop UTG. The ace seems like a great card to bet on the river. He's going to have a very hard time finding a call with just a ten when you bet. If you bet more on the turn, it sets up a river shove nicely.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: misplayed every street?

dip,

pf is fine
double barrel isn't too good, the 5 doesn't change anything, villain is still calling with any pair. I only like firing the turn if I know that villain likes to call the flop with overs and can fold the turn
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: misplayed every street?

dip if you wanna dbl barrel sack up and bet closer to pot so you can shove most rivers
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