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Old 11-01-2007, 02:26 PM
myke11 myke11 is offline
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Default 200nl on stars turned top pair

Villian is junkmail, who i have 21.6/15.5/2.48 over 515 hands. i have a note on him that says one time i floated his cbet on a QQx board, and he c/c the turn and river with qj. I just tried a pretty spewy bluff vs him that turned out to be just that. Heres that hand
Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Alot of the time i would be the turn
UTG: $834.25
MP: $235.75
CO: $200
Hero (BTN): $374.45
SB: $198
BB: $210.05

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $8, SB calls $7, BB folds

Flop: ($26) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">MP bets $18</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52</font>, SB folds, MP calls $34

Turn: ($130) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $78</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $175.75 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds

Results: $286 Pot ($286 Rake)

We dont have much prior histroy with each other. Heres the hand im questioning:
Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BTN: $831.25
SB: $381.75
BB: $200
Hero (UTG): $236.45
MP: $200
CO: $210.05

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $7, BB calls $6

Flop: ($24) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, SB calls $18, BB folds

Turn: ($60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $44</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $128</font>

Sometime i check behind this turn, however since i was caught bluffing only a few hands before i thought that a bet might be read as a bluff again. Thoughts?
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

interesting. he really isn't repping much besides QJ. Most people can't have a 4 or JJ very often here b/c of pf, and it's sorta unlikely that he would take this line post with those hands anyway given that you keep missing bluffs vs him. I would just shove here probably.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

yea that was all that was going through my head at the time, qj or air
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

i think this is a pretty easy fold.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

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i think this is a pretty easy fold.

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what do you put him on
why cant he have air or like 88 here (floated flop then on the turn was like [censored] this guy he always bets i raise [censored] him)
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

what are you putting him on?
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

If you bet turn it's not to bet fold given history.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

He's repping a really tight range {QJ, 44, maybe 45s} and who ever believes that right? ARR IN BABAY.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

Allin like other people said.
Also I dont think this type of player always calls pf with QJo, and there's only one way to make QJs. Furthermore, would he cr for value here with QJ on a paired board?
His line looks weird, and he knows that the Q is a good card for you to double barrel. He could be semi bluffing with Jxhh.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 200nl on stars turned top pair

he had JJ... killself. i still think that i would stack off in that spot though, i liked my play. (i shoved obv)
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