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Old 11-01-2007, 12:00 PM
I_Like_Beer I_Like_Beer is offline
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Default I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

Full Tilt $10 rebuy. We are right near the money bubble.

No reads on villain. I try and steal with A7. I have a double-belly-gut-buster, and possibly an over. So as many as 11 outs. Will a push have fold equity over a mid pair like 88 or 99?

Just fold to his min-raise?




Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 400/800 Blinds, 100 Ante, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP1: 30,964
MP2: 12,188
Hero (CO): 30,805
BTN: 7,043
SB: 29,795
BB: 37,541
UTG: 50,662
UTG+1: 12,485
UTG+2: 41,538

Pre-Flop: (2,100) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A dealt to Hero (CO)
5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 2,500</font>, 2 folds, BB calls 1,700

Flop: (6,300) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets 4,500</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to 9,000</font>, Hero ??????????


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Old 11-01-2007, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

id shove
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:22 PM
brad2002tj brad2002tj is offline
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

I usually fold. He amost always has something, we are at best about 25% to make the hand.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:28 PM
homanga homanga is offline
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

A shove is probably fine, but being near the bubble I think there are better spots with your stacks size to chip up.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:33 PM
halpgr halpgr is offline
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

It can be dangerous to cbet a gutshot draw on a flop where a raise would leave you priced out and forced to fold. Check behind the flop.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:42 PM
Willd Willd is offline
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

Folding here is pretty bad as you're getting the right pot odds to draw to your double gutshot and your ace is also often good. After he raises it depends a lot on your read of villain. Against most villains I will just call and give up on most turns, but if villain is tight enough to fold 77/88/99 type hands here then a shove is fine.

However I agree with halpgr that checking behind is probably good as you're never folding an overpair with a single bet and you're not likely to fold out many worse hands with a c-bet. If villain makes a real raise here you may get priced off your draw when you could have taken a free card, which is a very bad result.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

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It can be dangerous to cbet a gutshot draw on a flop where a raise would leave you priced out and forced to fold. Check behind the flop.

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the draw is open ended.

If you bet and get min-raised i also would shove here - you should have at least 11 outs. with the pot odds given here it's a pretty clear shove.

still i also would check the flop, if villain bets i would set him all-in.
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Old 11-01-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

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check the flop, if villain bets i would set him all-in.

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Unless it's a 2p2er, in which case they will call every
time and you will miss...oh wrong forum [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Old 11-01-2007, 02:46 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

betting flop is fine, now its close but pushing is ok.
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Old 11-02-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: I gots a double-belly-gut-buster. Push? ($10 rebuy)

His raise looks weak. Not sure if villain is capable of a minny raise with a strong hand to keep you interested. Id shove here
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