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#11
10-31-2007, 04:46 PM
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Re: Flopped straight against river flush
I really dont agree that this is a call. The river check is good if you're trying to get his last $4, because he is betting this at the end. The trouble is he called you on all streets for a reason; that reason was NOT him floating 2 streets with a 4 str8 on the board so that he could bluff you if a heart hit. In other words, if that heart hits, he's not bluffing, and I strongly suspect that one of his hearts is a 7. This is an unraised pot. And I understand that we're getting a decent price for the call, but I dont think its good money management to call a bet when you KNOW youre behind. I mean, realistically, this villain either has the str8 or flush. I mean come on, no way he has 2pr or a q.
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#13
10-31-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Flopped straight against river flush
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I really dont agree that this is a call. The river check is good if you're trying to get his last $4, because he is betting this at the end. The trouble is he called you on all streets for a reason; that reason was NOT him floating 2 streets with a 4 str8 on the board so that he could bluff you if a heart hit. In other words, if that heart hits, he's not bluffing, and I strongly suspect that one of his hearts is a 7. This is an unraised pot. And I understand that we're getting a decent price for the call, but I dont think its good money management to call a bet when you KNOW youre behind. I mean, realistically, this villain either has the str8 or flush. I mean come on, no way he has 2pr or a q. [/ QUOTE ] Couldnt agree more, every time i call in these spots i see the flush...
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#14
10-31-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Flopped straight against river flush
I would like to clarify this if I may. You should bet because his calling range > betting range, IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE THE BEST HAND. Your statement is true, I think, for villain with these stats, but if we aren't certain we have the best hand, then we should not bet (if we bet and he pushes, we are then pot-committed and have to call, when we may not want to). As I said before, I think we are beat here, but if we did feel we had the best hand, then I agree we should bet rather than check
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