Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

[Bobo Fett]

Here's the problem, Rek. FT has a history of doing this, sillysal is far from the first person to post on here in a situation like this. Also, history shows that if they find sillysal guilty of whatever they are investigating her for, that will be the end of the story. Unless FT has changed their ways from the past, her account will be closed, the money will be taken, and she will never be given a clue as to what she has apparently done wrong.

This history is the context in which everyone is judging FT. FT has done this in the past, promised to improve their CS procedures in light of these events, and now it appears not much has changed. That's why everyone is jumping all over FT, imo.

[Rek]

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Here's the problem, Rek. FT has a history of doing this, sillysal is far from the first person to post on here in a situation like this. Also, history shows that if they find sillysal guilty of whatever they are investigating her for, that will be the end of the story. Unless FT has changed their ways from the past, her account will be closed, the money will be taken, and she will never be given a clue as to what she has apparently done wrong.

This history is the context in which everyone is judging FT. FT has done this in the past, promised to improve their CS procedures in light of these events, and now it appears not much has changed. That's why everyone is jumping all over FT, imo.

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Thanks Bobo - These past situations though. Are you implying that innocent people have had their accounts frozen and then confiscated? Or that they just don't let the forum know.

Obviously we get all sorts post here and con artists are always posting junk acqusations. Then its like a whispering campaign. I expect a good deal more complaints now about FTP without any real substance to them.

Just my thoughts on it - I am not a FTP appologist but I do want to know and be happy with the fact that any fraudsters get what they deserve. And we all get a fairer game.

[turtle82]

I agree with Rek. If FTP has confirmed that they have replied within 24 hours to her emails, and she cannot deny that, then what is the point of brining up their lack of comminication in the past? ( in this case)

Also, I have no problem with FTP having her her account closed, the money will be taken, and she will never be given a clue as to what she has apparently done wrong, if she was guilty.


"you implying that innocent people have had their accounts frozen and then confiscated? Or that they just don't let the forum know."

i guess i AM an FTP apologist, prolly the only one [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Josem]

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Also, I have no problem with FTP having her her account closed, the money will be taken, and she will never be given a clue as to what she has apparently done wrong, if she was guilty.



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i assume that this is a mistype, right?

[Henry17]

It is a tough call for me. On the one side I've been in Sally's position several times and I know how frustrating it was the first few times.

I also understand FTP's position. Scamming a poker site is relatively easy and almost impossible to prosecute. The amount of attempted fraud is probably a lot higher then most people realize.

The problem is allowing payment processors that advance any form of credit even if only for 2-3 days. It might hurt business a little to not allow people to play until their transactions clear but at least it would put an end to all of this.

[Hopey]

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Also, I have no problem with FTP having her her account closed, the money will be taken, and she will never be given a clue as to what she has apparently done wrong, if she was guilty.


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I guess you'd have no problem with the police arresting you and throwing you in jail, without ever telling you what the evidence is against you or giving you a chance to defend yourself, if they believed that you were guilty.

Or your bank seizing your accounts and accusing you of bank fraud, without ever telling you what the evidence is against you or giving you a chance to defend yourself, if they believed that you were guilty.

[Henry17]

It is not that they never will tell you only that they will not tell you for some time. Most legal jurisdictions do allow for detainment without a showing of cause under certain circumstances.

[TheEye]

Oldboy!

[Hopey]

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It is not that they never will tell you only that they will not tell you for some time. Most legal jurisdictions do allow for detainment without a showing of cause under certain circumstances.

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The point is that if FTP decides that you are guilty, you will *never* see the evidence against you, and will only have a vague idea of what you were charged with in the first place.

[dying2win]

ftp support is seriously the biggest [censored] joke ever and they should be shut down untill they employ non retarded human beings that can read, speak english and can type on a key board. untill then they should burn in hell.