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Old 10-29-2007, 03:19 AM
DonJ DonJ is offline
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

Im generally pretty good at S&G strategy but Im runnin so cold in these things its rediculous. 6 in a row without a seat. Bloody sick bad run.
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Old 10-30-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

Well, here's how not to play the bubble, courtesy of the BB:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t4215)
MP (t3265)
Button (t1015)
SB (t3035)
BB (t3470)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4175</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t3030 (All-In).

Flop: (t7365) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t7365) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t7365) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t6260


Hero has Ac Qh (flush, king high).
BB has As Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: BB wins t6260. Hero wins t1105.

SNGWiz has his call at -0.73% if I'm pushing 100% here. I blame all of you who say to never, ever fold AA. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

Does sngwiz have a 5400 structure or did you create a custom one?
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

Custom. But it's pretty simple to create in Wiz.
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

No one's folding aces there. I don't care what SNGWiz says. Button doubles or steals the blinds once and you're in a dogfight seriously regretting folding AA. If button had 100 chips then yeah.

Also just out of curiosity, what is BBs call if you are on a reasonable range (AQ+, 77+ or something)?
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:59 PM
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BB's call EV is virtually the same no matter what range he puts me on, and always negative. I'm guessing that's because his expected win % is such a small range (80-90%), whether I have 32 or KK.

From the length of time he thought about it before calling, I'm pretty sure he would've folded KK.

I did almost pull off a sweet move using my time bank to wait for a blind change and force button all-in on the same hand as me when I had just 5 chips left, but the big stack picked us both off.

Also, probably just second-guessing the spot, but I wonder if raising to 1600 and folding to any decent stack all-in would have been better than a push here. I just can't convince myself that someone wouldn't have been dumb enough to try a re-steal with something they couldn't call all-in. The play in these things constantly defies logic.
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

The question is really why did you push AQ there? Just open fold
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Old 10-30-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

Fair point. It's slightly positive to push if the three middle stacks call AA only (a stretch, I know) and shorty calls 10-20%. In game, my thinking was all the middle stacks will fold 99% of the time and I'm ahead of shorty's call range to end the thing, with losing to him not really doing any damage.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: 5400 FPP strategy guide?

Did you end up bubbling?
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:57 PM
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Of course...why else would I still be dwelling on this? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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