25NL please flame away BVB with KQ

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($24.75)
MP1 ($22.55)
MP2 ($15.45)
CO ($24.15)
Button ($34.05)
Hero ($28.50)
BB ($72.70)
UTG ($34.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, BB calls $5.50.

Turn: ($22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17.5 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $17.50.

River: ($0) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $57

[Altec]

I'd let it go after he raises you on the flop. Most hands will beat you here unless you think he's on a draw or has KJ. This isn't worth you're stack.

[Das Budrick]

without a read I wouldn't be interested in playing this for stacks

[RapidEvolution]

I admittedly feel that villain just doesn't believe me and is trying to push me off. If this had been a limped pot, over even if this wasn't in the blinds, I could get out here...time for a break. *sigh*

[Johnes Benjamin]

I think reraising the flop is a mistake.
I don't like stacking off here at all

[EN09]

as a rule i'll pot the flop when i hit in the SB, blind vs. blind.

with reads i'll call the raise and reevaluate the turn.

w/o reads... hate to say it... i'm most likely dumping the hand.

EN

[RapidEvolution]

What gets me the most is that If I was in a different position...say...CO and villain was on button, I could probably call the flop raise and re-eval and (probably) c/f turn. Is there really an element of disbelief in BVB play or is it just something we (or maybe just I) imagine?

[SayGN]

there is definitely an element of disbelief in BVB play, and I would have a hard time letting KQ go here. I guess the important thing to remember is that being passive in the small blind isn't going to hurt you nearly as much as playing for your stack oop with tpgk. His raise is pretty substantial and it is going to build a pot that you are going to feel increasingly bad about as the hand goes on...with no reads, i guess it's a fold (now hopefully I can follow my own advice the next time I run into this).

[Effen]

There are easier, lower variance ways to stack (or try to) stack people than this. Especially at micros. Swallow hard and fold to the flop raise and MAKE A NOTE.

[WantToLearn]

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Is there really an element of disbelief in BVB play or is it just something we (or maybe just I) imagine?

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There is, but...

Turn play is a contradiction in itself.
If you DON´T think he´s doing this w/o a proper hand, then you don´t want to make this bet. If you DO think he is doing it w/o a hand, you want to let him bluff!