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Old 03-15-2006, 06:24 PM
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I do agree with your baseline arguement (which i forgot to include in my post). He has an addictive personality and he has a higher probability of [censored] up one day. I just didnt agree with the examples you presented. He is a talented player but he does not have simple money management skills and hes recovering from a few different forms of addiction. He is just an unstable poker player.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:11 PM
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While your desire to defend Matusow is admirable, you don't have a point, and you've written nothing to back up what you say. All you're saying is I don't know what I'm talking about. I watch the pros after I'm done playing for the day sometimes. I know what I see, I know poker. Michael Jordan was a great basketball player. I can't jump 46 inches but I can tell he was great. I play alot of poker. I see what I see. I know how to control people in pots and choose when to play the big ones. Dags and Kris queen completely controlled him. I watch them play alot. You need to go watch them play. Clearly you are ignorant to how bad some of these tourney players are in cash games. If you read Barry Greenstein's Ace on the River, he states that most big name tourney players aren't even successful at medium stakes poker cash games. Anyway, I like Matusow, but there you go, there's the answer. I'm happy to have this debate and prove you wrong Army eye. Thankyou.

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You make an awful lot of assumptions about what I think and what my motives are. Most of them wrong. All I'm saying is stop harping on and on about one session. You made several posts about the guy losing 5 buy-ins like that's some monumental event in short handed NL. If you've sweated the game a lot, and think Matusow is a underdog in this game and will lose in the long term? Fine, then say that. I'm just saying that losing 50k in one session is not proof positive of that. I've seen Ivey dump several buy-ins to Mahatma. It happens, especially with aggressive players like these guys.
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Old 03-15-2006, 07:13 PM
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All I repeat ALL poker players heve gone bust at some time in their poker past and most will in their future.

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this is a myth. many have, many haven't. simple as that.
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:09 PM
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Annie Duke said she went busto as recently as a few years ago.

I would put Sam Grizzle in the destined to be broke category.
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Old 03-15-2006, 08:21 PM
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Unabomber but he has women's cash

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phil laak is a great cash game player
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:09 PM
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It would be so 1.4 if Antonio the magician went busto.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:35 PM
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:58 AM
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Default Here are the facts about Mike.

If you guys listen at all on the Circuit, you'll know how much Mike blows off online and in various cash games. He's a total fish online and in cash games in general.

He has admitted to donking off his 1 million pay off from WSOP. He has also admitted to donking off his 1 million TOC winning through sports betting and losing over 400K online.

So there. Backed up by facts.

Thing is though, I think Mike is great, he has a good heart and he's one of my favorite pros. I think he'll keep on giving it and making it happen. So it hurts me to say that the previous poster has a point.
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Old 03-17-2006, 11:20 PM
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Annie Duke said she went busto as recently as a few years ago.

I would put Sam Grizzle in the destined to be broke category.

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Is Sam Grizzle actually a poker pro? My impression is that he is a losing player (as well as some other not-so-nice things).
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Old 03-18-2006, 02:46 AM
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Sean Sheikhan will go bust!
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