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Old 10-27-2007, 03:37 AM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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The bigget thing ive realized is it's important you know the opponents river tendencies before you start sexying.. *exceptions on the rare boards*


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i actually think this is an important point but sometimes sexying unknowns is just too hard to resist.

PokerStars 50/100 Hold'em (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has As Jc (two pair, aces and fives).
MP has Kd Th (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.50 BB. </font>
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:33 AM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: river cr

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The bigget thing ive realized is it's important you know the opponents river tendencies before you start sexying.. *exceptions on the rare boards*


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i actually think this is an important point but sometimes sexying unknowns is just too hard to resist.

PokerStars 50/100 Hold'em (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has As Jc (two pair, aces and fives).
MP has Kd Th (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 10.50 BB. </font>

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On this specific board, I think either screwplaying the turn or sexying the river is the best play in a vacuum even with no read. To clarify, If someone took the bet-bet-bet line in this specific spot against today's typical online opponent I would tell them they did not play this hand optimally.
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