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#41
10-26-2007, 02:04 PM
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Re: OSU at Penn State
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yes, OSU is better this year than at any time in the previous several seasons, imo, and much more balanced than last year's touted team. tlt [/ QUOTE ] Your way off on this statement. Last years OSU team was much more well rounded. Offensively, it's not even close and this years team has depended on great D and especially a weak schedule. The big 10 really was exposed last year for a weak conference and nothing has changed so far this year. That being said I think PSU is overrated and Morelli has never played well in big games. I really like OSU to cover, it's still the beast team in a weak conference. 
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#42
10-26-2007, 02:13 PM
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Re: OSU at Penn State
Can anyone tell me what the O/U is on this game? Seems like a possibility for PSU +3/Under and OSU +3/Over.
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#44
10-26-2007, 02:56 PM
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Your way off on this statement. Last years OSU team was much more well rounded. Offensively, it's not even close and this years team has depended on great D and especially a weak schedule. [/ QUOTE ] Defense- way better Special Teams- slightly worse (no Ginn) WRs- slight drop RBs- large improvement OLine- large improvement QB- large drop I would rather have a drop on offense and a rock solid defense any time. I think last years team was better in some areas and worse in others. A team that is good defensively against the run could give OSU trouble if Boeckman is playing off his game. If he is playing well, shouldn't matter much. [ QUOTE ] The big 10 really was exposed last year for a weak conference and nothing has changed so far this year. [/ QUOTE ] Wrong again. OSU- Close to same Michigan- Slightly worse Illinois- much improved Penn State- about the same, slightly better Indiana- much improved Purdue- much improved Michigan State- much improved Wisconsin- about same, slightly worse NW- much improved Minnesota- much worse Iowa- much worse Wrong again. [ QUOTE ] That being said I think PSU is overrated and Morelli has never played well in big games. I really like OSU to cover, it's still the beast team in a weak conference. [/ QUOTE ] Agree here.
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#45
10-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: OSU at Penn State
TomCollins--I'd say Iowa is the same as last year--they were a 2-6 big11ten team that finished on a downswong
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#46
10-26-2007, 04:12 PM
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He is insane on the topic.
Mich, forecast for BCS Final last year now 'slightly worse?' LOLOLOL. Iowa you already said. Wisky is not improved. PSU annhilated them, and yet he's saying PSU is no good. Purdue hasn't beaten anyone yet. Not sure how they are much improved yet either.
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#47
10-26-2007, 04:15 PM
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TomCollins--I'd say Iowa is the same as last year--they were a 2-6 big11ten team that finished on a downswong [/ QUOTE ] It's close. I forgot how bad they were last year. They did almost beat Texas in the Alamo Bowl, and crushed Purdue, this year they get crushed by Purdue. They did have a good win against the Illini, but I would say that was more of the Illini screwing up more than Iowa dominating. All in all, I would say Iowa is slightly worse than last year.
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#48
10-26-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: OSU at Penn State
Michigan is only slightly worse. They have close to the same exact team. The reason for the huge losses last year but not last year, is because they did not face their apparent weakness which is a mobile QB. They were not the number two team this year, many of you said it all year, correct? So theyd be around 10ish right? What are they now? Michigan has a better chance of beating OSU than PSU in my opinion.
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#49
10-26-2007, 05:03 PM
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(ignoring non BCS opponents) in 2006, psu played only MSU, Mich, and NW at home, winning against MSU (4-8) and NW (4-8); in 2005, PSU went 11-1, and beat OSU, Minn, Purdue, Wis.; in 2004, psu beat only MSU at home, losing to NW, Purdue, and Iowa; in 2003, psu lost to BC, Minn, Wis, OSU (1 pt), and beat Indiana. how, from this lackluster record (7w,9l) you conclude this is NOT an easy place to play, I have no idea. tlt [/ QUOTE ] Mostly because they sucked in 2003 and 2004. Homefield advantage only takes you so far if you have no talent.
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#50
10-26-2007, 05:16 PM
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They have close to the same exact team. The reason for the huge losses last year but not last year, is because they did not face their apparent weakness which is a mobile QB. [/ QUOTE ] They lost their 5 best defensive players, with 4 of them going in the first 2 rounds.
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