$200NL: AA fold river here?

[FireStorm]

Fairly easy fold. He's not doing this with a hand we beat for value, so this is either a hand that crushes us, or air. I doubt it's missed spades often enough to justifiably call as a bluff catcher.

Off topic but why not limp raise preflop? 2p2'ers never employ this line, and it's bizarre - it works wonders live. You avoid making what is considered to be a small raise and seeing a flop 4-way.

[ASPoker8]

Its much closer to a fold than a raise.

I'd call vs some opponents, fold vs most. Vs a regular I am folding.

[Alpha 5.20]

Because limp raise suck so much with 100BB stacks when you're basically telling everybody: hey! I got AA or KK!

[pattay]

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Fairly easy fold. He's not doing this with a hand we beat for value, so this is either a hand that crushes us, or air. I doubt it's missed spades often enough to justifiably call as a bluff catcher.

Off topic but why not limp raise preflop? 2p2'ers never employ this line, and it's bizarre - it works wonders live. You avoid making what is considered to be a small raise and seeing a flop 4-way.

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what works live does not mean it works online. limp/raise gives away your hand completely (unless you make that move with other hands, but still) and you run the risk of multiple limpers and no raises. i *almost* never use it for that reason.

as for the hand, i probably fold. is the small blind coming along after a raise and two callers with QQ or KK? seems unlikely. this hand looks so set-able. whatever im kind of a pussy though

[CalledDownLight]

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Its much closer to a fold than a raise.

I'd call vs some opponents, fold vs most. Vs a regular I am folding.

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You bet the turn though right?

[FireStorm]

If you get multiple limpers and no raises, play as small a pot as possible so you lose next to nothing when random hands outflop you, this shouldn't be an aspect that worries you.

As far as announcing your hand, to some thinking players, yes, you are. However, plenty of bad players will not automatically put you on the goods, you can get away with it more then you think. FWIW, when you raise UTG and then fire into several others on this board, you are essentially announcing your hand anyway.