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10-26-2007, 04:59 AM
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4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
no history... just sat down. hate that.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) Button ($50) SB ($25.30) BB ($16.90) UTG ($68.60) UTG+1 ($66.80) MP1 ($76.05) MP2 ($45.75) Hero ($53.25) Preflop: Hero is CO with 8  , 9. 1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold</font>, MP2 raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $1. Flop: ($5.25) 4 , Q, A (3 players)</font>UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $2</font>, Hero raises to $6</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $4. Turn: ($17.25) 2 (2 players)</font>MP2 checks, Hero bets $12</font>, MP2 calls $12. River: ($41.25) 3 (2 players)</font>MP2 bets $26.25 (All-In)</font>, Hero ? my gut instinct is to call, since i don't think he takes this flop/turn line with any hand that includes a shove-worthy diamond... really i want to know if i'm out of line in calling. 
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#3
10-26-2007, 05:09 AM
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Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
okay, so the ace being the only non-diamond on the board makes it sketchy... what do YOU do here? this is what i'm really trying to find out.
what part of his flop calling and turn flat calling range do you think the ace of diamonds constitutes, given he's not really likely to show up with any other one-diamond hands? does that make it a call? fold? +/-?
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10-26-2007, 09:10 AM
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Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
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I fold and also bet a bit more on the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the former but not the latter. If we bet more on the turn we are more likely to be priced in on the river if we don't want to call. However, with the bet size amount we still have a comfortable PSB left.
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#6
10-26-2007, 09:13 AM
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Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
with that board, the turn bet has to be whatever lets us get shove a PSB on the river or close to it anyway, end is a fold, but bet more on turn imo
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#7
10-26-2007, 09:23 AM
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Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
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with that board, the turn bet has to be whatever lets us get shove a PSB on the river or close to it anyway, end is a fold, but bet more on turn imo [/ QUOTE ] Villain has $26 into $41 with the current bet sizing, if we make it more on the turn we're looking at $20 into $50 where we have a much tougher decision and may have to call.
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#8
10-26-2007, 09:37 AM
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Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
^^i get what ur saying sciolist, but i'm banking on the river being a non-diamond most of the time and since it usually is, i want the stacks going in...
obv if it's a diamond, it sux and we have to make a read here, but on the turn, i want to prepare to shove comfortable on the river imo
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#9
10-26-2007, 11:07 AM
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Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
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obv if it's a diamond, it sux and we have to make a read here, but on the turn, i want to prepare to shove comfortable on the river imo [/ QUOTE ] We basically agree, but I would say that $26 into $42 is a comfortable shove
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#10
10-26-2007, 11:35 AM
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Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars
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[ QUOTE ] obv if it's a diamond, it sux and we have to make a read here, but on the turn, i want to prepare to shove comfortable on the river imo [/ QUOTE ] We basically agree, but I would say that $26 into $42 is a comfortable shove [/ QUOTE ] I'd rather have money in the pot now. If you want to prepare a comfortable shove, you should try to make it as easy as possible. MP will call more money on the turn and it doesn't change their range. If they want to take the rope you need to give it to them.
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