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Old 10-26-2007, 04:59 AM
freshbeats freshbeats is offline
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Default 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

no history... just sat down. hate that.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($50)
SB ($25.30)
BB ($16.90)
UTG ($68.60)
UTG+1 ($66.80)
MP1 ($76.05)
MP2 ($45.75)
Hero ($53.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 9.
1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold</font>, MP2 raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.

Flop: ($5.25) 4, Q, A (3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets $2</font>, Hero raises to $6</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $4.

Turn: ($17.25) 2 (2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero bets $12</font>, MP2 calls $12.

River: ($41.25) 3 (2 players)</font>
MP2 bets $26.25 (All-In)</font>, Hero ?

my gut instinct is to call, since i don't think he takes this flop/turn line with any hand that includes a shove-worthy diamond... really i want to know if i'm out of line in calling.
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:02 AM
EddieRooo EddieRooo is offline
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

Why can't he have the ace of diamonds?
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Old 10-26-2007, 05:09 AM
freshbeats freshbeats is offline
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

okay, so the ace being the only non-diamond on the board makes it sketchy... what do YOU do here? this is what i'm really trying to find out.

what part of his flop calling and turn flat calling range do you think the ace of diamonds constitutes, given he's not really likely to show up with any other one-diamond hands? does that make it a call? fold? +/-?
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:04 AM
pureklas pureklas is offline
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

I fold and also bet a bit more on the turn.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

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I fold and also bet a bit more on the turn.

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I agree with the former but not the latter. If we bet more on the turn we are more likely to be priced in on the river if we don't want to call. However, with the bet size amount we still have a comfortable PSB left.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

with that board, the turn bet has to be whatever lets us get shove a PSB on the river or close to it anyway, end is a fold, but bet more on turn imo
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:20 PM
HoldEmNewby HoldEmNewby is offline
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Default Re: 4flush, villian shoves river.. where am i? emo tear, 50nl stars

your flop raise is too small.

turn bet more for value. he's calling $14 as often he is calling $12 so you should bet more.

As played fold he's not calling the turn with a 2/3 pot bet remaining to bluff a river diamond.
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