Combodraw facing potbet from sb, tough hand

gergong2 · #1 10-26-2007, 04:56 AM

Villain is 18.64/15.29/2.64 over 381 hands, not a bad player.

$0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($95.65)
UTG+1 ($50.25)
Hero ($51.45)
BTN ($96.42)
SB ($53.85)
BB ($18.20)

Pre-flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is CO 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.5

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($8, 4 players)
SB bets $7, 1 fold,

orlov · #2 10-26-2007, 05:04 AM

Raise him potsized and call a shove imo.

whyzze · #3 10-26-2007, 05:15 AM

I take this bet as him telling you he has a set. I dont see the nuts doing this. Definately cant call, if you make your hand he isn't paying you off.

I would just shove.

gergong2 · #4 10-26-2007, 05:58 AM

I was thinking a lot about this hand since yesterday.
I actually reraised pot, and called the shove, but i was not sure i am ahead of his range.
We have a very big combodraw but i was thinking of folding.
Is anyone folding this or i am just too tight?

MJK08 · #5 10-26-2007, 07:17 AM

I will always reraise and call a bet when i have a oesd+fd,
but the thing i dont like here its that your oesd is for the small strait

does any1 think that changes anything here?

Shattered · #6 10-26-2007, 07:27 AM

Damn. I was going to say this was an easy shove, but I stoved the range that a thinking TAG would reasonably do this with (JJ-99, KQ, KdJd, QdJd, JTs) and you only have 40% equity against that range. Even throwing in AJ and KJ you're still a 6-5 dog. I think you have to fold here.

orlov · #7 10-26-2007, 08:28 AM

assuming the 6-5 dog scenario, with the dead money in the pot and just a tiny FE a shove is better than break even i think?

MrWooster · #8 10-26-2007, 08:36 AM

I think a shove here is correct - don't have stove at the moment, but as far as I can remember, OESD + FD is good enough to get it AI here. Pot is $15 and you have about $50 left... hmm, I think raise and call a shove is good here, even better if BTN comes along as you will be getting even better odds, and BTN will most likely have a lower FD.

Shattered · #9 10-26-2007, 11:42 AM

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assuming the 6-5 dog scenario, with the dead money in the pot and just a tiny FE a shove is better than break even i think?

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Maybe, but from a good TAG this is almost never KJ and both KJ and AJ are folding to shoves anyways. In the past I've shoved every time but I'm going to have to reconsider; if I didn't screw up my ranges, anything but folding is -EV.