STTF SNG->cash thread

[futuredoc85]

well i would just shove b/c his stacksize suggests he'll call with worse and you do have the best non-flush hand, + sometimes he'll call with worse so the times that SB turned a flush you wont lose monies.

[cha59]

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well i would just shove b/c his stacksize suggests he'll call with worse and you do have the best non-flush hand, + sometimes he'll call with worse so the times that SB turned a flush you wont lose monies.

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ah good point

[Onyyn]

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I don't get it? It's pretty standard. Against an aggro player you could 3-bet.

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Sorry, I've never used this line in a cashgame with air ...until now.

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To complement doing this with air, weak-lead monsters like this vs these guys sometimes too, *especially* if they're capable of stacking off top/over pair. I think most people read the stop-n-go as weakness a large percentage of the time and will just reraise you by default with anything that was strong enough to open.

[ALReturnsLOL]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($104)
Button ($42.10)
SB ($180.80)
BB ($101.50)
UTG ($22)
MP ($146.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $9.

Flop: ($27) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $21</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $64</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $107</font>, Hero calls $27 (All-In).

villain is 25/20 over a decent sample. he's 3bet me a couple times this session, but this is the first time i've shown any resistance.

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nh I agree with slim, its somewhat coolerish if he has you here.

[slimon]

For now what are the crucial stats I need for pokerace? I have VPIP,Preflop Raise, Total Agression postflop, Total Hands, Fold Contiunation Bet, Attempted to Steal, Calls continuation Bet, and Continuation Bet.

I don't need calls Continuation Bet right because I already have folds continuation bet? They are pretty much the same?Also continuation bet means when they continuation bet right?

[cha59]

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For now what are the crucial stats I need for pokerace? I have VPIP,Preflop Raise, Total Agression postflop, Total Hands, Fold Contiunation Bet, Attempted to Steal, Calls continuation Bet, and Continuation Bet.

I don't need calls Continuation Bet right because I already have folds continuation bet? They are pretty much the same?Also continuation bet means when they continuation bet right?

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I like having all three of these:
- folds to Cbet
- calls Cbet
- raises Cbet

No - calls and folds to Cbet are not the same and not the inverse of each other.

[Josem]

but folds to cbet + calls cbet + raises cbet always equals 100, no?

so you just need two of them.

[Jbrochu]

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For now what are the crucial stats I need for pokerace? I have VPIP,Preflop Raise, Total Agression postflop, Total Hands, Fold Contiunation Bet, Attempted to Steal, Calls continuation Bet, and Continuation Bet.

I don't need calls Continuation Bet right because I already have folds continuation bet? They are pretty much the same?Also continuation bet means when they continuation bet right?

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I like having all three of these:
- folds to Cbet
- calls Cbet
- raises Cbet

No - calls and folds to Cbet are not the same and not the inverse of each other.

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I think if you use folds and raises you can infer calls.

1 - (folds c-bet + raises c-bet) = calls c-bet

[Jbrochu]

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Villain is 49/1/1.24 in 121 hands and floats quite a bit, but doesn't appear to be a complete moran.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $149.20
SB: $112.40
BB: $136.80
UTG: $95.95
Hero (CO): $121.60

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5

River: ($17.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $12

How's my line?

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I would usually bet the flop. Even though better hands are unlikely to fold and worse hands are unlikely to call (although in this case he might if he floats a lot) you still have a vulnerable hand that prolly benefits from villain folding.

I would like to hear reasoning for checking flop.

As played on the flop I like your line the rest of the way.

[Jbrochu]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($165.25)
jb ($50.50)
UTG ($22.25)
MP ($67.60)
CO ($50)
Button ($50)

Preflop: jb is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.5</font>, jb...?


UTG is 45/24/4 55 hands
SB is 35/17/2 171 hands

I feel like my hand is probably good against both villains ranges (although SB hasn't 3-bet much at all) but I really hate this spot with the shorty still to act behind me.

General thoughts on situations like this, factors I should be considering, etc.?