200NL - overpair facing turn overbet

[ir0nphist]

villain is 24/7/2.2, I've been pretty active. . . around 27/20 & cbetting often.

Basically the question is, is this JJ or some kind of oesd semibluff/pair+oesd (87s/76s/75s) often enough to justify a call here?

Damnit, why is he shoving?




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saw flop

Hero ($335.50)
CO ($186.65)
Button ($293.95)
SB ($259)
BB ($147.75)
UTG ($203)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $36</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $18.

Turn: ($94) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $250.95 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??

[Imrahil]

I'd just fold the flop because I'm gonna have no clue on the turn when he does exactly this.

[Sciolist]

I'm not a big fan of folding the flop - lots of people mess around on the flop then slow down if you show any interest. He may also be raising with something like A8, worrying about overcards on the turn.

I'd fold to the push on the turn though.

[Imrahil]

Or call flop b/f turn.

[Sciolist]

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Or call flop b/f turn.

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Yeh, I can see that being a good line too. I guess it depends how often we think he's being fancy on the flop, we don't need it to be all that often for this to be a better line...