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It's a terp. [/ QUOTE ] yeah i figured this was a pretty easy muck, but i'm plenty likely to be holding decent pairs and AK here, so i was more interested in what y'all do with them. also, who flats KK+? who 4bets? |
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I'd honestly really want to muck AK here preflop...I just dont think a guy this passive pre is limp/raising AQ- or even AK.
With KK+ I make it like 260. |
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[ QUOTE ] While I'd love to have somthing more insightful to say, I'd also call pretty much any PP here as you certainly have odds to setmine. I feel like captain obvious but those are my thoughts. [/ QUOTE ]$63 to win $635 does not equal odds to setmine [/ QUOTE ] 10X+ against what we've pretty much determined to be AA KK from a donk who stacks off every time? Amihigh? |
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I'd honestly really want to muck AK here preflop...I just dont think a guy this passive pre is limp/raising AQ- or even AK. With KK+ I make it like 260. [/ QUOTE ] i think his range is wider than this, i see these guys doing this move with like 77 and KQ a lot because they get tired of being iso-raised. |
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fold this. i mean he's raising 6% of his hands so just look for a better spot.
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[ QUOTE ] I'd honestly really want to muck AK here preflop...I just dont think a guy this passive pre is limp/raising AQ- or even AK. With KK+ I make it like 260. [/ QUOTE ] i think his range is wider than this, i see these guys doing this move with like 77 and KQ a lot because they get tired of being iso-raised. [/ QUOTE ]The "read" is that he hasnt been paying attention to it and is continuously limp/calling a lot...He's going to have to proove to me that his range is wider before I fork over $635 to him on an Axx board. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] While I'd love to have somthing more insightful to say, I'd also call pretty much any PP here as you certainly have odds to setmine. I feel like captain obvious but those are my thoughts. [/ QUOTE ]$63 to win $635 does not equal odds to setmine [/ QUOTE ] 10X+ against what we've pretty much determined to be AA KK from a donk who stacks off every time? Amihigh? [/ QUOTE ]What about the times he flops a set too? Or when he has QQ/KK and an A comes on the flop...or when he has AA and the flop is KKset and he isnt willing to get it in. What happens when the board is 789T? There is a really good post about this that Im sure somebody can link for you...you need 18+:1 odds to have "real" set odds. |
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casper i think that applied more to tags with wide 3bet ranges, or ust semi decent opponents with wide enough ranges like TT+ AQ+. either this guy has KK+ and its a call or he has a wide enough range to call i think, its not like hes going to outplay us postflop.
EDIT: it woudl be a call with 99 is what i meant. i think its a fold as played, but woudlnt be surprised if he didnt have the goods here. |
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dear god fold terp, I'm not backing you if you have to ask questions like this! (and theres no diff, but I'd still consider calling QQ cuz I'm a fish)
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dear god fold terp, I'm not backing you if you have to ask questions like this! (and theres no diff, but I'd still consider calling QQ cuz I'm a fish) [/ QUOTE ]can I get a backing lil sweetheart? |
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