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Old 10-23-2007, 11:15 PM
Schiester Schiester is offline
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Default Re: KK River fold, too late?

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He has a psb left on the turn so why is he betting so small when there are hearts and 345 out there?

He either has a set, jack or combo.

If he induces two raises out of me with a set he can have my stack.

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So are you jumping ship on the turn?
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: KK River fold, too late?

This is a set almost always.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: KK River fold, too late?

What is your image at the table? With villain running 15/8 I'm more inclined to think he has a set. Everybody thinks he has AhJh? I'm not very experienced with combo draws but shouldn't the villain have b/3b push the flop when his equity was highest? As your post title suggests, it depends how you interpret that turn bet. Is it a set milking you or a draw pricing itself in. The people I see pricing themselves in are loose fish, not running 15/8. I think this is a fold. I don't think I can fold turn either.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: KK River fold, too late?

a 15/8 (if this is a decent sample) is almost never flat calling AJ OOP from the small blind. He's 3betting are folding, mostly folding.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: KK River fold, too late?

Not to mention, a 15/8 will probably not call a flop raise, and lead turn with AJ / just 1 pair.
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Old 10-23-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: KK River fold, too late?

Yeah I agree ron. I was wondering about villain's preflop calling range also but didn't mention it. And villain's not pushing river w/ top pair either.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: KK River fold, too late?

What do people think of villain's line w/ a set? That turn is confusing and maybe effective if he put hero on the type of hand that he had. I don't think I can fold there and half the other people here are pushing over the top.
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