terrible turn gives me top set

oh boy · #1 10-23-2007, 10:59 PM

villain is 24/19 i dont remember his agg freq but he seems smart and agg

im running a pretty nitty 19/16

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($420.05)
Hero ($195.10)
MP ($481.40)
CO ($199.80)
Button ($194)
SB ($385.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $8, MP calls $8, 4 folds.

Flop: ($19) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $14, MP calls $14.

Turn: ($47) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $32, MP raises to $459.4, Hero

Claunchy · #2 10-23-2007, 11:03 PM

Folding top set to a non-nit TAG here would be a mistake imo.

djj6835 · #3 10-23-2007, 11:22 PM

Call. You have a solid redraw and villain can definitely be semibluffing here since you are bet folding so many weaker hands on that turn.

markuisis · #4 10-23-2007, 11:45 PM

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Call. You have a solid redraw and villain can definitely be semibluffing here since you are bet folding so many weaker hands on that turn.

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And i doubt hes shoving a flush this anxiously and kq wouldnt make much sense IMO. I think a poorly played J10 or semi-bluff is his most likely holding, maybe even a terribly played underset but i doubt that. Really annoying spot for sure, id fold to a smaller raise (not ridiculously small) but with this shove i just find it hard to believe he has a flush or kq, i guess id call reluctantly but i could c folding pretty easily, prob not a very helpful post but o well.

blah-blah-blah · #5 10-24-2007, 02:02 AM

call the shove. if u don't want to bet/call don't bet.

oh boy · #6 10-24-2007, 02:03 AM

ya for some reason i didnt think he would overbet the flush here. i call his 86 is no good

Esection · #7 10-24-2007, 02:09 AM

yea...i think he rarely shows up with a flush here. also, unless he thinks u have a pretty solid hand etc, i think this shove is never for value.