San Diego in an AC world - Page 6

Felz · #51 10-23-2007, 02:50 PM

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David Hume demolished this ridiculous argument over two centuries ago, yet they keep trotting it out. Amazing.

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Link or Source please, else, blablub...

As for PVN you reveal your preference regarding the options the political market provides. The question is why does the political market not provide an option that suits you, i.e. AC wonderland? Within a widely globalized world the idea behind the Tiebout model should become more and more relevant on a large scale, no?

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Borodog · #52 10-23-2007, 02:52 PM

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Here, I'll even toss you an easier one having to do with poker (I assume you do actually play.) How do online poker sites work in AC-land?

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Hard working private citizens expose scandals where they occur and use the internet to explain to people why they should pull their money out of dodgy blacklisted sites. Sorry that'll never happen will it noone will ever work selflessly for the good of others to expose cheaters how silly of me.

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Funny you should mention that. How come nobody's going to jail and one of the scammers will be coming back to his chairmanship post at the end of some "no one is going to publicly say" time period?

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Because government claims a monopoly on the definition and administration of justice. Duh.

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Also, how come nobody's stopped playing there?

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I don't play there. How about you?

pvn · #53 10-23-2007, 02:55 PM

Here's some from canada.

Fire officers have the power to close roads and stop people and vehicles arbitarily, indicating that entering a firezone without authorization is illegal.

Further, fire officers can conscript "any able-bodied adult located in the vicinity of a wildfire" and can "appoint temporary fire guardian" which imply that it's illegal to be a fire guardian without such official blessing.

http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/1997/c03697e.php

pvn · #54 10-23-2007, 02:58 PM

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How do online poker sites work in AC-land?

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U.S.-based sites.
No tax on winnings.
More deposit options.
etc.

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More reputable players chasing out the low-rent scammers.

Cf. legitimate businesses vs. the mob in vegas. How many casinos does the mob own nowadays? You can thank Howard Huges for getting polititians to remove the restrictions that kept legitimate business out of Vegas for so long.

calmB4storm · #55 10-23-2007, 03:00 PM

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David Hume demolished this ridiculous argument over two centuries ago, yet they keep trotting it out. Amazing.

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Link or Source please, else, blablub...

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Hume is famous for the position that we cannot derive ought from is -- that is, the view that statements of moral obligation cannot simply be deduced from statements of fact.

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http://www.iep.utm.edu/h/humemora.htm

tomdemaine · #56 10-23-2007, 03:00 PM

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Here, I'll even toss you an easier one having to do with poker (I assume you do actually play.) How do online poker sites work in AC-land?

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Hard working private citizens expose scandals where they occur and use the internet to explain to people why they should pull their money out of dodgy blacklisted sites. Sorry that'll never happen will it noone will ever work selflessly for the good of others to expose cheaters how silly of me.

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Funny you should mention that. How come nobody's going to jail and one of the scammers will be coming back to his chairmanship post at the end of some "no one is going to publicly say" time period?

Also, how come nobody's stopped playing there?

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Basically exactly like they do now.

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Oh, well, THAT's a relief.

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If noone stops playing there then they obviously dont care about being scammed. They're going to lose their money anyway and don't give a toss who it goes to. You might not like their choice but you can't impose your preferences on them. All you can legitimately do is inform people and choose for yourself whether to avoid them or not.

Kurn, son of Mogh · #57 10-23-2007, 03:08 PM

How about you tell us why we shouldn't force you to?

Because my money is not your money. You chose to live there. The Santa Ana winds are a known quantity. Hve been for decades. The region has a history of wildfires. Private insurance exists. In the absense of government, more private options would exists.

pvn · #58 10-23-2007, 03:08 PM

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As for PVN you reveal your preference regarding the options the political market provides.

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I'm walking down the street. Two gangs happen upon me at the same time, both intent on robbing me. So now we have two players in the market competing for my business.

One offers to take 90% of what I'm carrying. The other offers to take 75%.

I pick 75%.

I have revealed my preference. I had options.

Is the mugging justified?

The fact that options exist doesn't mean those options are legitimate. For the "options" that the political market provides to be legitimate, they would have to be constrained to property that the offering political market participant actually owns. Not just controlls, but OWNS. And no government claims to own the property that I'm currently sitting on. Yet I have "options" from the "market" imposed upon me.

Car manufacturers cannot force me to buy a car. Why do you feel political market participants can force people to "buy" their products?

Borodog · #59 10-23-2007, 03:08 PM

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David Hume demolished this ridiculous argument over two centuries ago, yet they keep trotting it out. Amazing.

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Link or Source please, else, blablub...

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Of the Original Contract, David Hume, 1748.

Borodog · #60 10-23-2007, 03:15 PM

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How about you tell us why we shouldn't force you to?

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I wish all statists were as honest as adanthar. He doesn't care what you think. He knows better, and he's all for forcing you to comply with him. I can at least respect the honesty of the nakedly violent statist.

It's the ones who hide their violent intentions in the trappings of "tacit consent" and other Orwellian bull [censored] that bother me. Sure, war is peace, freedom is slavery and slavery is freedom, voluntary is involuntary and involuntary is voluntary, everyone has a right to everyone else's property but nobody has a right to their own. Those are the real psychopaths.