NL25 - JTs UTG+1

hanning · #1 10-22-2007, 11:01 PM

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MP2 ($25.75)
MP3 ($23.90)
CO ($26.15)
Button ($36.90)
SB ($26)
BB ($18.40)
UTG ($13.80)
Hero ($29.55)
MP1 ($49.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.60) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1, MP3 folds, CO raises to $3, Button folds, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($7.60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero calls $3.

River: ($13.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $6, CO calls $6.

Final Pot: $25.60

wikemang · #2 10-23-2007, 02:38 AM

Fold preflop, shove flop, pot river.

illini43 · #3 10-23-2007, 02:43 AM

I might raise this up pf - but that's something I've been messing around with lately. Limping here is fine too. Folding is ok if the table has been aggro preflop.

Flop bet is fine, but I would 3bet it to $9 and get it AI if you can on the flop.

Shoving the flop is overkill.

If you b/3b the flop and are called, c/c this turn.

deafsheep · #4 10-23-2007, 04:58 AM

Here is my calculation of calling turn odds:
flush odds: 9/46 = 20%,
2 pair odd(T): 3/46 = 6%.
so you have 26%, to with pot of $10.60, and you need to call $3, so it's: 3/10.60 = 29%, sou you are drawing very slightly under odds. If you bet $6 on river, if you get your hand, your odds with implied will look like:
3 (to see river) / 16.60 (to win if we get hand) = 18%.
IMO, 6 is enough on river, cause a lot of hands will call 1/2 pot, IMO. And if you pot the river, a lot of hands, like K8-Kt will fold IMO.
But if your draw would be only a flush draw or he would fire 1/2 pot (or a bit more) then you should bet more river, like 2/3 of pot to cover your odds.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

crazymoose · #5 10-23-2007, 06:08 AM

This flop hit you right between the eyes. You should definitely bet/3-bet and get it in if possible.

If you bet/3-bet and get called you should shove any turn card if you think you have even the slightest bit of fold equity.

deafsheep · #6 10-23-2007, 07:54 AM

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This flop hit you right between the eyes. You should definitely bet/3-bet and get it in if possible.

If you bet/3-bet and get called you should shove any turn card if you think you have even the slightest bit of fold equity.

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Hm... According to Pokerstove you are 50/50 agains AK here, and 32/68 against a set. And as he raises you, it doesn't seems you have a lot of folding equity (like 5%, IMO). But, you have very strong draw, why not to draw, and fire if hit? I think it's more profitable.

Flups · #7 10-23-2007, 08:14 AM

I think getting it in on this flop folds out all the one pair hands and leaves us as dog against 2p/set hands. So, I think this was played fine. You could fold turn, because the board paired and you might be drawing dead, or at least your 2-pair draw isn't worth anything anymore (so you're drawing a bit more than very slightly under odds). If you do call however, I think I would bet/fold flushed river for a little more, maybe $7.50 or $8.

RapidEvolution · #8 10-23-2007, 10:28 AM

I bet more on the river here ($9-$10 seems good) as villain's line looks a lot like KJ and I think he'll pay us off since we could be bluffing the scare card. I agree with flups and sheep that we don't have a lot of FE here. CO has enough behind to make calling the flop worth it, and the turn bet lets us call profitably.

That having been said, I'd fold this preflop. I'm not a fan of playing drawing hands OOP as we can't manipulate the pot size as much as we'd like.

ship_it_trebek · #9 10-23-2007, 01:13 PM

Definitely bet the river more, I think the flat call on the flop is fine, shoving is terrible here. Maybe I'm too weary of committing my stack with this hand in a limped pot on this flop.