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Old 10-22-2007, 07:30 PM
illph illph is offline
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Default 25$, Deep stacks, awful spot: I know I\'m being freerolled

...but there is a lot of dead money in the pot.

I was totally lost in this hand, please tell me how to play better.

Party Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $50.26
CO: $21.70
Button: $83.54
SB: $133
BB: $78.07

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $1.25</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $4.75</font>, BB calls, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $28.5</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($71.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $53.79</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $53.79 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: $71.5
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:44 PM
OrrLives OrrLives is offline
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Default Re: 25$, Deep stacks, awful spot: I know I\'m being freerolled

Why no flop bet? You are almost last to act and probably have the best hand. Villain may fold QXXX with a backdoor Q spade flush draw if you bet pot on flop.

I think it is ok to fold on the turn to the SB bet. The pot is small and you will at best be chopping. If the pot gets big the rake will eat a lot of your profits. In addition, you have no idea what the button is going to do.

When the Button raises pot, it is time to fold. He might be a donk and be raising with a naked straight, but you have no idea. If the board pairs or a flush card comes out, you are screwed.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:55 PM
illph illph is offline
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Default Re: 25$, Deep stacks, awful spot: I know I\'m being freerolled

Yeah, I come from hold em and never folded the nuts before...guess it's time to start doing that.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: 25$, Deep stacks, awful spot: I know I\'m being freerolled

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Yeah, I come from hold em and never folded the nuts before...guess it's time to start doing that.

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Situations like this don't come up THAT often, but when they do it is difficult to fold the the nuts.

If hero had two pair or a set to go with his nut straight it would be an easy call on the turn (or even push if he felt the button would do this without a flush draw).
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 25$, Deep stacks, awful spot: I know I\'m being freerolled

Fold preflop. Bet flop. Otherwise, played fine. You should be willing to bet the board pairing to make up for the times the other guy makes his hand.
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:21 AM
alavet alavet is offline
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Default Re: 25$, Deep stacks, awful spot: I know I\'m being freerolled

nice example of situation you may fold nuts.

there we can see SB, which may call with FD or trips and give us additional $14 to go. now you should decide is risk of getting additional $14 enough comparing with chance of board pairs and/or FD comes.

actually i think we should fold turn

heads up it would be another story cuz of bluff factor (but we should consider about size of pot before participating in), but HU looks like we have to stack off every river anyway
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:15 AM
sqwisssssss sqwisssssss is offline
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Default Re: 25$, Deep stacks, awful spot: I know I\'m being freerolled

fold pre flop. yur hand contains a dangler and your utg. its small stakes too so you should be waiting for stronger hands.

your hand is close but no cigar.
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