AP thread 872.6 - Statement ITT

[DoTheMath]

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I compared the old Nov. 2006 KGC Gaming regulations with the new ones

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The KGC regulates all gambling in Kahnawake, not just internet gambling. I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that the recently adopted regulations applied to B&M, not internet. I formed this impression by reading titles, not the content of the regulations. What can you quote that shows that the KGC regulations specifically related to internet gambling have changed since the scandal broke?

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In order to get an unterstanding of the situation in Kahnawake I think one has be very careful and to know a lot . Perhaps this and this link lead to some additional background information but certainly not to a complete picture.

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Quite.

The first link is to a series of articles published last year by the Hamilton Spectator, focussing on questionable doings at the Six Nations Reserve, not Kahnawake. Six Nations is a very different group of Mohawks. They are about 650km (400 miles) from Kahnawake. They are independent of each other. They are in different provinces. They were on opposite sides during the French and Indian War.

Yeah, Six Nations have internet servers too, and the article claims they host AP. This is the only place that I have seen this claimed. Every other source I have seen says AP is hosted in Kahnawake. The Six Nations servers are run by a company called SixNet, not by MIT.

I posted a link to the most relevant Spectator article about 40 hours ago. I pointed out that it confused the issue of where AP is hosted. I wildly speculated that this might be an indication of redundant servers.

The second link is for an ultra-conservative blog's files on the Caledonia Land Claim dispute. Given the fringe nature of this blog's outlook, I wouldn't cite this as a reliable source for anything. However, even if one were to accept it as a source, the Caledonia issue has nothing to do with Kahnawake - it is more relevant to Six Nations.

Disclaimer: IANAL.

One of the listed Spectator articles does actually talk about Kahnawake - in the context of aboriginal claims to the right to regulate gamblng hosted on their land. This article is of little use to us. The only two authorites cited are a Toronto (Ontario) lawyer, and an Ontario Provincial Police Officer. Quebec has a system of civil law that is quite distinct from the law in the rest of Canada. AFAIK, one needs to get a whole different law degree to be quaified in Quebec civil law. The police officer cites a number of Ontario precedents that are probably of no application in Quebec, but may be relevant to Six Nations.

Aborignal sovereignty is a delicate political matter in Canada. There are a number of unresolved issues. Both Ontario and Quebec have seen violent incidents, including fatalities. In 1990, the Oka crisis involved the Canadian army being deployed against militants in one of Kahnawake's related reserves.

Over the years, successive Quebec governments have stated their opinion that gambling activies at Kahnawake are illegal. The Quebec Provincial Police (Surete du Quebec (SQ)) have repeatedly stated that they are conducting investigations of gambling operations in Kahnawake, including the KGC and MIT. AFAIK, no charges have ever been laid.

Any decision to actively investigate, let alone bust, MIT or the KGC will be a political act. It isn't likely to happen IMO. There is an only slighty greater likelyhood of the KGC cooperating with the SQ to investigate AP. The SQ and Quebec Mohawks have a history of antagonism, not cooperation. Besides, we've seen no evidence of a crime being committed in Kahnawake, just in Costa Rica and possibly Miami and Los Vegas.

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I played with the owner of bluff magazine last night at the Palms. I mentioned AP but he had very little to say. he was a donkey by the way.

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Eric or Eddy? Eric is a poker donkey.

[Tuco]

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Popcorngate DID occur, which is why AP is not making any statements about it. It is easy for them to disprove, and the fact that they have ignored it speaks volumes.

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DD,

While I don't doubt PG did happen, I did talk to someone who saw the popcorn money in the Vancouver offices. Are you saying that ST then took it? I can't find your original post about it, but I seem to remember that it implied he took the cash as soon as it was collected.

Tuco.

[MoeJ]

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The perpetrators of this theft are out of reach.

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Ah, but the perpetrators can, at present, enter and leave the US with impunity. A conviction in absentia would cut that crapola right out. Then they'd be stuck in their stinky, third-world paradise forever.

[TonyRoflmao]

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What nobody here elaborated on is this "financial dirt" they're afraid of uncovering if AJ was to go down. These empty box structures are set up so that nobody has to pay a dollar of taxes in a perfectly legit way, so I seriously doubt we're looking at some plain tax or skimming scam. Nat/Adanthar, any hints?

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I'd imagine the FBI or DOJ is already investigating, maybe was already investigating prior to this scandal. This could be why the wedding photos freaked them out. The last thing you need in Central America is a bounty on your head.

I also feel that KGC may try to use this opportunity to prove they're a worthy commission. It's awkward that they own components of their licensees, but this all seems like a technical loophole to allow for post UIGEA US customers.

Annual Reports from either Absolute Entertainment or Blast Off, Ltd. seem to be the lowest hanging fruit left, and they're going to be hard to reach, but a worthy target.

A lot of the people at that wedding are almost certainly innocent in this particular scandal, but cheating at poker is starting to sound like the least criminal act that's been committed here.

IMO

[prodonkey]

I think AP started the california fires to draw attention away from them.

[GaryTheGoat]

Dan Druff:
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The perpetrators of this theft are out of reach.

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Wrong. DYSW?

gg

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Re: the wedding pictures...

They will likely be coming down because the photographers are upset about the copyright issue. AP did not want them out there for obvious reasons, but they realized after a few minutes of them being linked on 2p2, enough people had downloaded copies of them and there was no point to removing them for that reason. So while they might be coming down at some point, it wasn't at the request of AP -- they know that cat is waaaaay out of the bag and that tons of people now have copies backed up.

[GaryTheGoat]

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Re: the wedding pictures...

They will likely be coming down because the photographers are upset about the copyright issue. AP did not want them out there for obvious reasons, but they realized after a few minutes of them being linked on 2p2, enough people had downloaded copies of them and there was no point to removing them for that reason. So while they might be coming down at some point, it wasn't at the request of AP -- they know that cat is waaaaay out of the bag and that tons of people now have copies backed up.

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yep.

gg

[bronx bomber]

You know, those wedding pictures really struck a nerve. Adanthar, can we start a thread of random wedding photos being photo shopped? If their heads are cropped out can they still do anything? Anything to disrupt their homelife.