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3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
Villain is kitty97 who is very aggro. He's 3bet me a few times over the past few minutes and I have folded every time.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) BB ($600) UTG ($377.60) MP ($688.65) CO ($467.45) Hero ($850) SB ($603.10) Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, SB calls $21, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: ($54) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, Hero checks. Turn: ($54) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $42</font>, Hero calls $42. River: ($138) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $126</font>, Hero Is this a bluff often enough to call? I guess our recent history has me a bit confused as to what his range is here. He's been 3betting me quite a bit, so I figured he would here with pairs 99+, AK and the like. So idk if this maybe a small PP turned into a bluff or a turned draw that's firing 2 or if I just want to be a callbox for no good reason. |
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
You can for sure call here
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
Fold. Just because he's 3 bet you alot doesn't mean this is a bluff often enough to call with bottom pair.
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
Given the board texture on the the turn, he could certainly be firing a missed draw on the river enough to make this call. The problem is that a lot of players won't cold call KQ/JT/T9 type hands from the SB. If he's the type to 3 bet those from the blinds this is closer to a fold since it's unlikely he had a drawing hand on the turn. He probably has a mid PP a lot, and this board nails his range in that case, and all you would really beat is a bluff from 22-55, and I doubt he's turning a low pair into a bluff here often enough to call. Basically all I'm getting at is you should only be calling this if his cold call range from the SB is fairly wide here.
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
I know kitty very well and this looks like his valueline
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
The river just doesn't seem like a good card to fire a 2nd time as a bluff. Although you checked back the flop on that board pretty much announcing you don't have much of a hand he still has to expect if you called the turn you'll probably be calling that river. The only hand he can profitably get you to fold is spades. I think often times he has a hand like KJ, KTs, JTs or 45s. I don't think he's bluffing here more than 1/3 of the time.
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
it looks like a spot to call light, but you kinda gotta be there playing to feel it out. I'm guessing he had like KT. I think you get taken to value town like 3/4 of the time.
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
do people advocating a fold here also fold QQ?
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
looks like a fold...most people are smart enough to know most people bet the flop with draws/air most times. i don't think he expects you to fold the and river is a pretty bad card to bluff.
QQ question is interesting. i guess if i want to fold this i'd fold it since i can't think of much that he wouldn't reraise that doesn't beat QQ. |
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Re: 3/6 - I want to call with 3rd pair (smallish pot)
mm, kitty is really retarded so i want to call, but i guess our hand has about the same value as A high here. i would definitely look this up sometimes but i think folding is better as a default on this particular board.
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