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Old 10-20-2007, 09:54 PM
SpecT SpecT is offline
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Default 50NL vs maniac

villain is 72/50 retard, 3bets a ton. just get it in preflop or is this fine?

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Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.25</font>, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $9.5</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, SB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($21.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $20.7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $53.2</font>, BB calls.
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:00 PM
chucky chucky is offline
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Default Re: 50NL vs maniac

Dont get it allin preflop. Flop is ok. Gambling with bottom pair and 2nd nut fd is an opponent dependent move.
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: 50NL vs maniac

Preflop: Shoving is not a good idea, but I think you should be willing to gamble on the flop if you hit a marginal hand and he will bet pot on most flops.


Flop:
As long as you are not up against a set or the nut flush draw, you have a good chance at winning the pot. Even against top two pair and a weaker flush draw you have a ton of outs.


Against a weaker flush draw + one pair you are a small favorite:
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 6s Qc 3c 449 54.76 371 45.24 0 0.00 0.548
Jc 5c Kd 9h 371 45.24 449 54.76 0 0.00 0.452


Against a weaker flush draw + two pair you are a small dog:
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 6s Qc 3c 363 44.27 457 55.73 0 0.00 0.443
Jc 5c Kd 7h 457 55.73 363 44.27 0 0.00 0.557


If villain has two pair but no flush draw, it is a toss-up:
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 6s Qc 3c 396 48.29 424 51.71 0 0.00 0.483
Kd Jd 7d 9h 424 51.71 396 48.29 0 0.00 0.517


Against a set + no flush draw you are a big dog:
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 6s Qc 3c 253 30.85 567 69.15 0 0.00 0.309
5c Kd 7d 7h 567 69.15 253 30.85 0 0.00 0.691


Against a nut flush draw but no pair you are almost dead:
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 6s Qc 3c 83 10.12 737 89.88 0 0.00 0.101
Ac 5c Kd 7h 737 89.88 83 10.12 0 0.00 0.899
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:30 AM
iggymcfly iggymcfly is offline
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Default Re: 50NL vs maniac

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Dont get it allin preflop. Flop is ok. Gambling with bottom pair and 2nd nut fd is automatic given stack sizes.

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FYP. Obviously, the read makes it easier, but I can't ever see myself folding in this spot. The only way I might get away is if a bad/tricky player bet less than the pot.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:54 AM
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Against this opponent, I'm beating him into the pot. p000sh
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:35 PM
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arrr inn
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:50 PM
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Against a nut flush draw but no pair you are almost dead:
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As 6s Qc 3c 83 10.12 737 89.88 0 0.00 0.101
Ac 5c Kd 7h 737 89.88 83 10.12 0 0.00 0.899


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This is the situation that pisses me off more than anything and is what has made me more nitty. I've started playing less suited rundowns (not the best ones obv) and more ragged suited aces with the intent of getting it in any time I hit a flush draw lol. It's sad, and probably not entirely true ;p But it sure feels like it!
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