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Old 10-22-2007, 01:09 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default KK facing 3 bet by the time it gets to me

Both villains are unknown, what do I do here and why?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $17.80
Hero (CO): $47.85
BTN: $26.60
SB: $4.60
BB: $25
UTG: $28.95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $2</font>, HERO....
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: KK facing 3 bet by the time it gets to me

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Old 10-22-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: KK facing 3 bet by the time it gets to me

Raise...reasons:

-You probably have the best hand
-They are min-raising...and this isn't Limit
-They have mid stacks and they'll probably push you preflop with mediocre/semi-good hands...which you beat...since you have Kings.
-If they don't push you preflop, they will then have so little left over postflop that they will get all in very lightly.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: KK facing 3 bet by the time it gets to me

The UTG raise and min raise of that doesnt scare anyone?
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: KK facing 3 bet by the time it gets to me

Don't fold kings PF. *smacks you with a wet noodle*

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Old 10-22-2007, 01:17 PM
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Definate raise to ~7, however if MP 5bet shoves, i could maybe lay it down cos his hand is face up.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:18 PM
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I didnt say I folded, I am just curious what everyone thinks. Not every hand that I post do I lose or act results oriented.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:19 PM
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even without reads...no...you have kings, raise a glass and cheer...break it down if you like...

UTG minraise general range - any pair, AJ+, KQ = cheer
MP minreraise general range - any pair, AQ+ = cheer

What they are willing to call you with if you reraise and they wanna dump their mid stacks away...a lot...you should be licking your lips and slobbering over their stacks scheming how you will get both of their's...play it strong...
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:21 PM
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Definate raise to ~7, however if MP 5bet shoves, i could maybe lay it down cos his hand is face up.

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There would already be 25 in the pot with 15 more to you (1.67:1 = yummy here) if UTG folds and MP follows this line with many...many hands considering he's short stacked... = do not fold this...
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:24 PM
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Definate raise to ~7, however if MP 5bet shoves, i could maybe lay it down cos his hand is face up.

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There would already be 10 in the pot if UTG folds, and 7 more to you if MP does this with many...many hands considering he's short stacked... = do not fold this...

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An unknown villain minraising an UTG raise, then 5 bet shoving doesnt have a wide range.
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