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Old 10-22-2007, 02:51 AM
Bluegrassplayer Bluegrassplayer is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

I think you need to reraise on the flop, otherwise you're going to find yourself in this situation a lot of the time. By not reraising you are setting yourself up for these type of decisions. As played I think I fold turn because you know that you're looking at another $50 plus decision on the river, and no card in the deck is really going to help you make your decision.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

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I think your two choices are folding on the flop, maybe turn, or 3-bet the flop hard to represent a monster.

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If you're not folding to a river shove then just get it in on the flop.

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I think you need to reraise on the flop, otherwise you're going to find yourself in this situation a lot of the time.

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Re-raising the flop is terrible terrible play. Against a reasonable opponent, it folds nearly all weaker hands plus it also puts you in deeper water if the opponent has 2 pair or better.

Yes, it certainly does avoid the need to play the turn and river. But calling the C/R on the flop is just an obvious spot for prudent pot size control. And the most profitable and +EV line is to re-evaluate the turn and river after the calling the flop C/R.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

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Your hand is pretty obvious, so he is loudly declaring that (a) he can beat AK/AA ,

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u do realize that AA is a HUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference here, right? give the board pair down low

as played....i hate this spot. i think im folding the river. strength of villians line is crazy.

and i agree that range on the flop is KQ/44 often. i dont rly think AK is there tho. so ur pretty smoked on the flop. i guess i fold the turn being i cant see us beating much more than JT, which i dont think we will b shown here nearly enuff to turn a profit
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:54 AM
ninjadanger ninjadanger is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

as played I fold the turn. you beat nothing but KJ/air and I don't think villain shows up with those a lot taking this line.
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

normally i would fold turn but as bottom card paired does that not take 44 out of the equation??
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 - TPTK marginal spot

Or he flopped a set and turned quads. Reads would help -- is he bad enough to play K4s or Q4s? You raised UTG and he doesn't care at all. His turn bet of 24/38 looks like pure value to me... run away fast.
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