3 Bet pot with straight draw

[Altreg]

Versus random pf and flop calling rainge
he has something like +$2 equity on allin turn bet

[Profish2285]

Traz, so youre saying the entire line is spew, or is firing this turn spew?

[SoCalQuest]

Preflop and turn are spew, flop is standard.

[Profish2285]

I personally think the turn is really thin at best, but it felt like the right move at the time. I still do not see why pf is spew tho taking into account all that I have previously mentioned. No one feels like all the times villain folds pf in addition to all the times villain folds to my c-bet makes this move alot closer than at first glance? Of course, how about the times also when I flop two pair, trips, a straight, etc and stack him?

[traz]

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Traz, so youre saying the entire line is spew, or is firing this turn spew?

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in it's entirety, the hand is spew defined

[SoCalQuest]

Or the times you flop a J or Q and lose a medium-large sized pot.

Unless you are content with check calling down with top pair, preflop is spew.

[Profish2285]

I am content with doing that for at least one street as most villains do not bluff in 3 bet pots.

[Shattered]

QJo is easily one of the worst hands to 3-bet with. The reverse implied odds for QJo in a 3-bet pot OoP are tremendous.

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But take into account the times he does not call pf and the times he has a hand like AQ, KQ, or AK and has to fold to my c-bet and this hand becomes alot closer than people think at first I feel.

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If you're using that logic, you might as well 3-bet 27o. You can't use it to justify your play. Don't get me wrong, I've 3-bet 35s before, and there are times when 3-betting 27o is +EV. In a vacuum, though, they're equally terrible ideas.

On the turn, you don't have nearly as much fold equity as you need to make betting again profitable. Check/call or check/fold depending on bet sizing.

[Waingro]

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QJo is easily one of the worst hands to 3-bet with. The reverse implied odds for QJo in a 3-bet pot OoP are tremendous.

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But take into account the times he does not call pf and the times he has a hand like AQ, KQ, or AK and has to fold to my c-bet and this hand becomes alot closer than people think at first I feel.

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If you're using that logic, you might as well 3-bet 27o. You can't use it to justify your play. Don't get me wrong, I've 3-bet 35s before, and there are times when 3-betting 27o is +EV. In a vacuum, though, they're equally terrible ideas.

On the turn, you don't have nearly as much fold equity as you need to make betting again profitable. Check/call or check/fold depending on bet sizing.

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I agree. There is absolutely spots where 3betting with other than KK+ is +EV, but QJo is not the hand to do it with, and don´t 3bet unknowns light. I would rather 3bet 64o. QJo oop is an instamuck really no matter what.

The flop is a fantastic flop for your hand so fire away.

[Bren]

Depends on Villian, hard to make assumptions here without reads imo